Spike Vincent Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 [quote name='Quoth'd' post='1146552' date='Mar 1 2011, 10:56 PM']I wanna 418 now . . . Can I get that? ohh and a 4k head so the sound engineer can hear me from inside the booth & he won't need to DI me then [/quote] WEM 4x18's from the late 60's,which I believe were for PA use.I have seen and heard one.Believe me,you'd want it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4 Strings Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Well, I'm hurt now. I actually have an 1x18 in my rig like this one: [url="http://www.musiciansnews.com/ha/hartke/hartke_pro_1800_new_pro_series_bass_cabinet_speakers.shtml"]http://www.musiciansnews.com/ha/hartke/har..._speakers.shtml[/url] Only a 2 x 10 to go with it. I look forward to opportunities to use it, only had two so far. Yep, weighs a ton but it tips back onto wheels with a handle and so is actually easy to move (but not lift - but then the other guys in the band love it so they don't mind helping!). Fact is, the sound is totally monsterous. The amp volume control needs halving as it is incredibly loud and really shakes the ground, really does. Clarity? No, more clear without. Deep bass? Yes, in ship loads. Once you get used to it using just 'normal' cabs is a bit boring and empty without that deeeep punch. Needs a lot of care to get the tone sorted so you don't lose definition, totally changes your regular settings and getting the opportunity to play around with tone isn't easy. Regarding clarity, I suppose you could say that it gives you an enormous, earth shaking bass with ease and without distortion but it doesn't ADD to clarity, without care it can muddy things up. But, goodness me, its fun! (ps I understand what people say about a speaker size not having a particular sound, this may be true although in this case the cab has a huge volume hence its performance) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algmusic Posted March 10, 2011 Author Share Posted March 10, 2011 [quote name='4 Strings' post='1157346' date='Mar 10 2011, 10:28 PM']Well, I'm hurt now. I actually have an 1x18 in my rig like this one: [url="http://www.musiciansnews.com/ha/hartke/hartke_pro_1800_new_pro_series_bass_cabinet_speakers.shtml"]http://www.musiciansnews.com/ha/hartke/har..._speakers.shtml[/url] Only a 2 x 10 to go with it. I look forward to opportunities to use it, only had two so far. Yep, weighs a ton but it tips back onto wheels with a handle and so is actually easy to move (but not lift - but then the other guys in the band love it so they don't mind helping!). Fact is, the sound is totally monsterous. The amp volume control needs halving as it is incredibly loud and really shakes the ground, really does. Clarity? No, more clear without. Deep bass? Yes, in ship loads. Once you get used to it using just 'normal' cabs is a bit boring and empty without that deeeep punch. Needs a lot of care to get the tone sorted so you don't lose definition, totally changes your regular settings and getting the opportunity to play around with tone isn't easy. Regarding clarity, I suppose you could say that it gives you an enormous, earth shaking bass with ease and without distortion but it doesn't ADD to clarity, without care it can muddy things up. But, goodness me, its fun! (ps I understand what people say about a speaker size not having a particular sound, this may be true although in this case the cab has a huge volume hence its performance)[/quote] I'm not hear to offend. If you read the original post. It's in relation to the BS said in the video.. If you're happy with you're 1x18, good for you. My setup is super light because I gig sometimes 3 times a week and sometimes even use public transport and light rig is just common sense, I can get alot of volume low 'thunder and punch' these days with great sound modern or vintage with growing a tail Video referred to the 'only option of a suitable bass rig is a 4x10 and a 1x18'????? Then again, you never know what i'm gonna do :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzMike Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 The best p-bass tone I've had was with a Trace V4 + Big Ben 18". I haven't tried any other 18" boxes, but that one just 'sat' nicely in the mix. This live vid of mine has poor sound quality, but it's the Trace + BB with a Jazz. Sounds ok to me ....? [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjdDlDhAFzE"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjdDlDhAFzE[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismuzz Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 They've made fools out of all of us! That vital information is nothing compared to what other pearls of wisdom Expert Village have been sharing Look at the very appropriately named John P Funk's amazing video. Words don't even.... [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1s_Vpj24KtI&feature=channel_video_title"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1s_Vpj24KtI...nel_video_title[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 I have to say all my band comments of the sheer trouiser flapping ability of my 2 single 12's... On a loud band night the other day, one guy in the audience came up to me and said he liked my bass as it went right through him. 2x1x12....??????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismuzz Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 TWO cabs? You're mad! Why not just make a 1x24? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xgsjx Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 [quote name='4 Strings' post='1157346' date='Mar 10 2011, 10:28 PM']Well, I'm hurt now. I actually have an 1x18 in my rig like this one: [url="http://www.musiciansnews.com/ha/hartke/hartke_pro_1800_new_pro_series_bass_cabinet_speakers.shtml"]http://www.musiciansnews.com/ha/hartke/har..._speakers.shtml[/url] Only a 2 x 10 to go with it. I look forward to opportunities to use it, only had two so far.[/quote] The 2x12 has a bigger frequency range & goes down just 1hz less than the 18 (according to the Hartke specs anyway). Also, you'd need an amp that's ok with a 2 ohm load to add the 2x10, as that 18 is 4ohm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluRay Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 [quote name='algmusic' post='1156575' date='Mar 10 2011, 01:26 PM'][url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Peavey-Bass-Cab-1-x18-2x10-/320665383717?pt=UK_MusicalInstr_Amplifiers_RL&hash=item4aa9257325#ht_500wt_1156"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Peavey-Bass-Cab-1-x1...5#ht_500wt_1156[/url] :-)[/quote] I've got that same cab! I imagine it was designed by a hard-up chiropractor. Even so, its an absolute beast and unbelievably loud. The 18 is clear / not muddy at all. Lots of fun to be had with the bi-amp too. Just to be silly I sometimes run mine with an extra 410 or a 115, for the eq practice and to see if I can get next doors cat to sh*t itself. Its definately a 2-man lift (coupled with lots of swearing). Great fun and sounds brilliant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4 Strings Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 [quote name='algmusic' post='1157412' date='Mar 10 2011, 11:16 PM']I'm not hear to offend. If you read the original post. It's in relation to the BS said in the video.. If you're happy with you're 1x18, good for you. My setup is super light because I gig sometimes 3 times a week and sometimes even use public transport and light rig is just common sense, I can get alot of volume low 'thunder and punch' these days with great sound modern or vintage with growing a tail Video referred to the 'only option of a suitable bass rig is a 4x10 and a 1x18'????? Then again, you never know what i'm gonna do :-)[/quote] Heh, don't worry, it was tongue in cheek, I know my 1x18 is nuts, I never actually NEED it, just have it for fun. I'm also out 2-3 times a week and this thing has accompanied me just twice since I've had it. I certainly agree that the guy in the video is not the first place I'd send anyone for advice (on anything!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4 Strings Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 [quote name='xgsjx' post='1157589' date='Mar 11 2011, 07:27 AM']The 2x12 has a bigger frequency range & goes down just 1hz less than the 18 (according to the Hartke specs anyway). Also, you'd need an amp that's ok with a 2 ohm load to add the 2x10, as that 18 is 4ohm.[/quote] Yeah, I know, still use it though with no problem, the volume control is hardly at 25% for gigs with the big boy plugged in so at a nominal 3 Ohm total the amp's not really struggling or getting hot. (Don't forget the actual impedance is related to the frequency, only deep notes will go down to low resistance, most of the time the total resistance will be much higher). The specs might say that about the 2x12 but, believe me, this thing is an earthquake. (Spec for my hi-fi speakers goes lower in frequency but there's no comparison). The 2x10 I use (Hartke 2.5) also goes lower in spec and has a much more useful range of sound in practice and gets used all the time. Great little cab. Just doesn't have the deep power of the 1800 cab though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShergoldSnickers Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 My first major woodwork project at school (36 years ago now ) was to build a cab for an 18" speaker I'd picked up - a Fane I think. The cab ended up 3'6" high, 2'6" wide by 15 inches deep, and had to be taken to bits to move it, unscrewing the front panel meant I could just about move the rest of the cab on my own. It had a slot port at the bottom and was lined with an old eiderdown. All done with guesswork but it seemed to work OK and had a surprising amount of bite to the sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinman Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 If Bill Fitzmaurice is reading this, can you design a round cab for a single 18" with legs a bit like a kick drum with a driver in one end? Then patent the design as it constitutes a whole new concept in roll-in, roll out bass cabs. Transportation problems a thing of the past! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4 Strings Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 (edited) Cylindrical cab? Throw it in the boot of the car and sub all the way home too! Edited March 12, 2011 by 4 Strings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algmusic Posted March 22, 2011 Author Share Posted March 22, 2011 and now let's look at drumming.. again by'expert' village [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQGrM5HS8vU"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQGrM5HS8vU[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xgsjx Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Hahahahahaha! I loved the Cowbell solo at the end. This has confirmed to me that Expert Village are on the wind up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algmusic Posted March 22, 2011 Author Share Posted March 22, 2011 Jazz congos!!! [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sAc12507C4&feature=relmfu"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sAc12507C4...;feature=relmfu[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xgsjx Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 He's absolutely wasted! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algmusic Posted March 22, 2011 Author Share Posted March 22, 2011 [quote name='xgsjx' post='1172412' date='Mar 22 2011, 06:31 PM']He's absolutely wasted! [/quote] totally!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bankai Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 expertvillage successfully makes me rage, every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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