Stompbox Posted March 6, 2011 Posted March 6, 2011 Good morning - I want to know has anyone had success in getting the classic Fender "Click" sound? I 'm talking about the recorded sound of Fender Precisions & Jazz basses on orchestral tracks like "Walk In The Black Forest" - Horst Jankovsky(???) and similar. Is it just a very short delay, or a reverb, or both? I think you have to play with a pick as well. I would be interested to hear comments and advice (apart from "Why do you want to get that sound" .....). Cheers, Stompbox. Quote
EssentialTension Posted March 6, 2011 Posted March 6, 2011 [quote name='Stompbox' post='1151233' date='Mar 6 2011, 10:28 AM']Good morning - I want to know has anyone had success in getting the classic Fender "Click" sound? I 'm talking about the recorded sound of Fender Precisions & Jazz basses on orchestral tracks like "Walk In The Black Forest" - Horst Jankovsky(???) and similar. Is it just a very short delay, or a reverb, or both? I think you have to play with a pick as well. I would be interested to hear comments and advice (apart from "Why do you want to get that sound" .....). Cheers, Stompbox. [/quote] Flatwounds and a pick. Quote
wateroftyne Posted March 6, 2011 Posted March 6, 2011 ...and maybe a bit of sponge at the bridge. Quote
Beedster Posted March 6, 2011 Posted March 6, 2011 [quote name='EssentialTension' post='1151247' date='Mar 6 2011, 10:41 AM']Flatwounds and a pick.[/quote] [quote name='wateroftyne' post='1151250' date='Mar 6 2011, 10:42 AM']...and maybe a bit of sponge at the bridge.[/quote] +2 Quote
Stompbox Posted March 6, 2011 Author Posted March 6, 2011 OK - well thanks for that. The question sprang into my mind late last night after several beers, so I'm glad I remembered to get it on here this morning. I must confess that in my many, many years of playing, I've never used flatwounds, except on a Hofner Beatle bass that had black nylon wound strings on that I borrowed in the late 60s - but sound from the amp & speaker were so poor that Iwouldn't have known the difference. (A Linear Concorde amp & a Selmer Goliath 1 x 18" cabinet). After the winding went on one of the strings & it all unravelled I didn't use the guitar again. The guy offered the bass to me for £15, but I said it was rubbish. Guess I'm going to have to get some flatwounds then - any recommendations? Stompbox Quote
Beedster Posted March 6, 2011 Posted March 6, 2011 [quote name='Stompbox' post='1151323' date='Mar 6 2011, 11:41 AM']OK - well thanks for that. The question sprang into my mind late last night after several beers, so I'm glad I remembered to get it on here this morning. I must confess that in my many, many years of playing, I've never used flatwounds, except on a Hofner Beatle bass that had black nylon wound strings on that I borrowed in the late 60s - but sound from the amp & speaker were so poor that Iwouldn't have known the difference. (A Linear Concorde amp & a Selmer Goliath 1 x 18" cabinet). After the winding went on one of the strings & it all unravelled I didn't use the guitar again. The guy offered the bass to me for £15, but I said it was rubbish. Guess I'm going to have to get some flatwounds then - any recommendations? Stompbox[/quote] La Bella Deep Talkin' flats are my first choice. I think the heavier the gauge, the closer you're going to get to the sound you want. Depending on what you're playing at present, it might take a while for your fingers to adapt Quote
JTUK Posted March 6, 2011 Posted March 6, 2011 Or thumb nail and palm/wrist mute for a quick substitution if you don't want to go the whole hog with the set-up. Quote
Hobbayne Posted March 6, 2011 Posted March 6, 2011 If you restring with heavy gauge flats, then you probably will need to re-adjust your neck (well, the guitars) as the heavier tension and pull, will maybe result in the truss rod needing a tweak. Quote
AndyTravis Posted March 6, 2011 Posted March 6, 2011 [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-WMGZsydPk&feature=fvst"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-WMGZsydPk&feature=fvst[/url] At About 4mins in... This is the bass sound in my head today - Flatwounds and a Pick...yummy. Quote
EssentialTension Posted March 6, 2011 Posted March 6, 2011 [quote name='wateroftyne' post='1151250' date='Mar 6 2011, 10:42 AM']...and maybe a bit of sponge at the bridge.[/quote] Sorry, I forgot to mention the sponge. Quote
EssentialTension Posted March 6, 2011 Posted March 6, 2011 [quote name='Beedster' post='1151326' date='Mar 6 2011, 11:45 AM']La Bella Deep Talkin' flats are my first choice. I think the heavier the gauge, the closer you're going to get to the sound you want. Depending on what you're playing at present, it might take a while for your fingers to adapt[/quote] Yes, La Bellas are probably the best bet although I think Pyramid Golds or GHS Precision Flats can do it too. Quote
EssentialTension Posted March 6, 2011 Posted March 6, 2011 Oh, and it ought to be a heavy gauge pick like a Dunlop Stubby 2mm (or even 3mm) Quote
Beedster Posted March 6, 2011 Posted March 6, 2011 [quote name='AndyTravis' post='1151369' date='Mar 6 2011, 12:21 PM'][url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-WMGZsydPk&feature=fvst"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-WMGZsydPk&feature=fvst[/url] At About 4mins in... This is the bass sound in my head today - Flatwounds and a Pick...yummy.[/quote] And the picked flatwound tone in my head today is: [url="http://www.myspace.com/ofmontreal/music/songs/coquet-coquette-71274522"]http://www.myspace.com/ofmontreal/music/so...quette-71274522[/url] However, given my undoubted expertise, this tone is likely either fingerstyle on rounds or a synth/sampled. Still love it though, something of the mid-era Beatles about it but with a whole lot more funk. Quote
EssentialTension Posted March 6, 2011 Posted March 6, 2011 [quote name='Beedster' post='1151388' date='Mar 6 2011, 12:38 PM']And the picked flatwound tone in my head today is: [url="http://www.myspace.com/ofmontreal/music/songs/coquet-coquette-71274522"]http://www.myspace.com/ofmontreal/music/so...quette-71274522[/url] However, given my undoubted expertise, this tone is likely either fingerstyle on rounds or a synth/sampled. Still love it though, something of the mid-era Beatles about it but with a whole lot more funk.[/quote] Sounded good to me. Quote
Cat Burrito Posted March 6, 2011 Posted March 6, 2011 Hmmmn, I must get into pick playing more. Heavy flats with foam is basically my style & I love that tone Quote
Stompbox Posted April 25, 2011 Author Posted April 25, 2011 I'm trying to find a link that relates to string tensions on the Basschat site - I had it a couple of days ago but I didn't make a note of it. Help!! Quote
JTUK Posted April 25, 2011 Posted April 25, 2011 I think these sounds can also be played with most dull strings with attack...so either a thumb nail or pick with a subtle mute will be getting there the rest can be brought on by EQ'ing the attack. Quote
gjones Posted April 25, 2011 Posted April 25, 2011 Are you talking about the tic tac sound? Originally they used to double up the bass line with a baritone guitar like a danelectro strung with flatwounds. This is good example of it [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6JpVmZb4bI"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6JpVmZb4bI[/url] Quote
Stompbox Posted April 25, 2011 Author Posted April 25, 2011 Thats' [i][b]exactly[/b][/i] the sound I'm talking about! Quote
Monckyman Posted April 25, 2011 Posted April 25, 2011 Hmm , I wonder if you could fake that by splitting the signal into two chans and EQing the feck out of one to get that click and the other for the thump? still have to start with the flatwounds/pick/sponge mute thang though. Quote
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