timtoomany Posted March 10, 2011 Posted March 10, 2011 I realise this is probably sacrilege to say, but I don't get on with most of Jaco Pastorius's solo work and I've never been all that keen on Weather Report. I do, however, like Bright Size Life very much, and I've just discovered the Joni Mitchell album Shadow and Light; Jaco is upfront in the mix and the band; it's a long way from simple comping but there's a laid-back feel to it. So my question is this: can you recommend other albums I should be listening to where Jaco takes a bit more of a back seat? Quote
blamelouis Posted March 10, 2011 Posted March 10, 2011 No . Stick to inferior players , you dont get it. Quote
andyonbass Posted March 10, 2011 Posted March 10, 2011 You could try Ian Hunters "All American Alien Boy" Quote
supabock Posted March 10, 2011 Posted March 10, 2011 [quote name='blamelouis' post='1157178' date='Mar 10 2011, 08:47 PM']No . Stick to inferior players , you dont get it.[/quote] Thats a bit harsh Quote
Blademan_98 Posted March 10, 2011 Posted March 10, 2011 [quote name='blamelouis' post='1157178' date='Mar 10 2011, 08:47 PM']No . Stick to inferior players , you dont get it.[/quote] I don't think I do either...... Quote
EssentialTension Posted March 10, 2011 Posted March 10, 2011 [quote name='blamelouis' post='1157178' date='Mar 10 2011, 08:47 PM']No . Stick to inferior players , you dont get it.[/quote] Timtoomany, the alternative to the advice quoted above is to ignore that advice and stick to what you like. And it isn't sacrilege not to like something. I don't like the solo stuff either. Quote
RhysP Posted March 10, 2011 Posted March 10, 2011 Try any of the other Joni albums he plays on, especially "Hejira" - Jaco at his very best IMO. "Mingus" might be a bit too jazzy for you but that's pretty awesome too. Quote
timtoomany Posted March 10, 2011 Author Posted March 10, 2011 Ouch! Sorry, just not a big fan of jazz steel pan or Toots Thielemans on kazoo... Grateful for the suggestions though. Quote
Doddy Posted March 10, 2011 Posted March 10, 2011 Listen to Jaco's big band stuff,he's comping all the time and swings like mad. Quote
paul_5 Posted March 10, 2011 Posted March 10, 2011 +1 for the Hejira album - some lovely playing. Then again, I'm a fan of the 'jazz steel pan and Toots Thieleman' stuff too. Quote
thisnameistaken Posted March 10, 2011 Posted March 10, 2011 Hejira and Bright Size Life are among his best recorded performances. Agree with what the previous poster said about having to put up with Toots Thielemans and steel drums on Jaco records, I'm glad I got my Jaco listening out of the way when I was a teenager and more patient. Quote
Doddy Posted March 10, 2011 Posted March 10, 2011 [quote name='timtoomany' post='1157369' date='Mar 10 2011, 10:47 PM']Toots Thielemans on kazoo.[/quote] Ooohhh that's harsh. Quote
JTUK Posted March 10, 2011 Posted March 10, 2011 I had to sift through a lot of Weather Report to get something I liked... I far preferred him as a sideman... as with a lot of solo players as it happens, AFAIAC I like his work on Dreamland by Michel Colombier.. where he was excellent throughout, IMV. Quote
witterth Posted March 10, 2011 Posted March 10, 2011 "Dreamland by Michel Colombier" yep what he said lovley stuff. Quote
Vibrating G String Posted March 10, 2011 Posted March 10, 2011 [quote name='blamelouis' post='1157178' date='Mar 10 2011, 12:47 PM']No . Stick to inferior players , you dont get it.[/quote] Quote
Vibrating G String Posted March 10, 2011 Posted March 10, 2011 [quote name='timtoomany' post='1157139' date='Mar 10 2011, 12:21 PM']I realise this is probably sacrilege to say, but I don't get on with most of Jaco Pastorius's solo work and I've never been all that keen on Weather Report. I do, however, like Bright Size Life very much, and I've just discovered the Joni Mitchell album Shadow and Light; Jaco is upfront in the mix and the band; it's a long way from simple comping but there's a laid-back feel to it. So my question is this: can you recommend other albums I should be listening to where Jaco takes a bit more of a back seat?[/quote] This is probably exactly what you didn't want to hear but it's an interesting side of Jaco. My favorite Jaco stuff is also the Joni/Metheny era. Quote
Vibrating G String Posted March 10, 2011 Posted March 10, 2011 My favorite Jaco bit however starts at 2:25 of this burner. He's rehashing some classic Jaco licks but I dig it. Quote
Vibrating G String Posted March 11, 2011 Posted March 11, 2011 OK, 1 more. He also lays back in parts of this. This clip is cool because he's not playing a fretless or any numinous gear and he hits a big old clam in his solo This tune is more playful than a lot of what he did. Quote
Sibob Posted March 11, 2011 Posted March 11, 2011 +1 for the big band stuff!! Birthday Concert is amongst my fave Jaco recordings!! You also get arrangments of a few songs he wrote in Weather Report where Zawinul (bless his heart) isn't fiddling all over them. Also, how can you not like A Remark You Made from Heavy Weather, beautiful track Si Quote
Doddy Posted March 11, 2011 Posted March 11, 2011 [quote name='cheddatom' post='1157723' date='Mar 11 2011, 10:00 AM']What's "comping"?[/quote] It's an abbreviation of 'accompanying'. Mainly used by jazz musicians. Quote
dlloyd Posted March 11, 2011 Posted March 11, 2011 This is my favourite Jaco piece and he's firmly in comp mode... It's a bit Sonic the Hedgehog circa 1991, but that's cool... Quote
ras52 Posted March 11, 2011 Posted March 11, 2011 [quote name='andyonbass' post='1157192' date='Mar 10 2011, 08:55 PM']You could try Ian Hunters "All American Alien Boy"[/quote] Wow - I never knew about that one. That's some line-up! [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_American_Alien_Boy"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_American_Alien_Boy[/url] Quote
cheddatom Posted March 11, 2011 Posted March 11, 2011 [quote name='Doddy' post='1157854' date='Mar 11 2011, 11:32 AM']It's an abbreviation of 'accompanying'. Mainly used by jazz musicians.[/quote] Thankyou! There's another "comping" in recording. I've no idea what it's an abbreviation for, but it's when they stick together loads of different takes to get a good one. Quote
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