RH 750

[Count Bassy]

I heard that it goes to 11

[mcnach]

[quote name='Musicman20' post='1183977' date='Mar 31 2011, 09:38 PM']Great news...the RH750 price is actually very reasonable. Bass Merchant say around £849 street price.[/quote]

that sounds like good news for those looking to buy a RH450 second hand!

[bluesparky]

[quote name='mcnach' post='1185310' date='Apr 1 2011, 09:45 PM']that sounds like good news for those looking to buy a RH450 second hand![/quote]
Such as me!

[whynot]

My sources tell me the RH450 street price will be around £675 in a couple of months, so a significant knock on effect to the used price.
Where does this leave the Staccato, as many people purchased or tried that model for the high end zing that the 450 could not deliver.

[bluesparky]

TC electronic has posted "Bass players, get ready to rumble! We brought something sleek and powerful with us to Musikmesse Frankfurt. ;-)" on Farcebook, i can't imagine what it'll be.....

[charic]

[quote name='mcnach' post='1185310' date='Apr 1 2011, 09:45 PM']that sounds like good news for those looking to buy a RH450 second hand![/quote]

Ouch! Good job I love my RH450 and it's not going anywhere anytime soon

[bluesparky]

[quote name='charic' post='1189116' date='Apr 5 2011, 03:24 PM']Ouch! Good job I love my RH450 and it's not going anywhere anytime soon [/quote]
Bah! Spoilsport!

[markstuk]

Looks like Mr Stickley has them in stock now.. Good price as well..

[url="http://www.bassdirect.co.uk/bass_guitar_specialists/TC_Rebel_750.html"]http://www.bassdirect.co.uk/bass_guitar_sp..._Rebel_750.html[/url]

I might have to go and pay him a visit tomorrow :-)

[Musicman20]

I have mine pre-ordered!

[Alec]

Just noticed that one thing that has disappeared from the RH450 to the RH750 is the headphone out.

Doesn't bother me, as I think I only tried it when I got my first RH450, never since, and am unlikely to. But am aware that others do use this feature.

Ostensibly, this has made space for the extra knob on the front, but surprised they'd remove a feature...

[wateroftyne]

Fret not! Although it's now a minijack.

[Flanker]

I've heard it kicks the Streamliners ass BIG time...............














Actually has anyone tried one yet ?(apart from Mark King)

[Raggy]

[quote name='Flanker' post='1193024' date='Apr 8 2011, 04:15 PM']I've heard it kicks the Streamliners ass BIG time............... [/quote]
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[Alec]

[quote name='wateroftyne' post='1192988' date='Apr 8 2011, 02:52 PM']Fret not! Although it's now a minijack.[/quote]

Oops! And I thought I'd taken a *proper* look too! Minijack is a bit pants, but is what a lot of people use, I guess, and makes it easier to squeeze in. Either way, don't care as I'd never use it.

So, that's it then, the RH750 is an absolute peach!

[sgh]

I'll be going to the US in a few weeks and was thinking of picking one up, Guitar Center do them for 999 usd !

Couple of questions though :

Power supply, can I just get a replacement uk lead and
Dimensions anyone know the boxed dimensions and also what the weight is ?

Cheers

[markstuk]

My mastery of the internet found the following...

[url="http://www.tcelectronic.com/rh750-techspecs.asp"]http://www.tcelectronic.com/rh750-techspecs.asp[/url]

And a UK standard "kettle" lead will work fine... If you declare bringing it in you'll have to pay 20% VAT and possibly some duty... You'll end up saving £100 tops, unless you want to risk HMCE smacking your bottom.. And you'll want to think about warranty issues, unless TC have a worldwide warranty policy...

MArk




[quote name='sgh' post='1248452' date='May 28 2011, 05:30 PM']I'll be going to the US in a few weeks and was thinking of picking one up, Guitar Center do them for 999 usd !

Couple of questions though :

Power supply, can I just get a replacement uk lead and
Dimensions anyone know the boxed dimensions and also what the weight is ?

Cheers[/quote]

Edited May 28, 2011 by markstuk

[secretsquirrel]

[quote name='markstuk' post='1248494' date='May 28 2011, 06:11 PM']If you declare bringing it in you'll have to pay 20% VAT and possibly some duty... You'll end up saving £100 tops, unless you want to risk HMCE smacking your bottom.. And you'll want to think about warranty issues, unless TC have a worldwide warranty policy...[/quote]

£999 USD = £610 approx right now, plus don't forget your credit card card charge on top.

+ Import duty of about 3% then 20% VAT so a grand total of around £760. Customs are getting very wise to new products coming in, they can check serial numbers and EAN codes to see if it is a new product or not. Trust me I got caught a few years ago with something similar and you don't want to see what the fine would be!

[url="http://www.tcelectronic.com/warranty.asp"]http://www.tcelectronic.com/warranty.asp[/url]
[quote]The product warranty is only valid in the country where the product was purchased.[/quote]

A number of years ago I used to work in the trade so I know that this is the case with most stuff brought into the states so won't just be relevant to TC Electronics.

Is it really worth the hassle to save such a relatively little amount on something that is so much money? Not only that but why not ask one of the decent dealers Like Mark or Darren to see what deal they can do?

That's what I would do myself, support a decent shop that without them being there you wouldn't get to see these products...

Better piece of mind too

[sgh]

Thanks both for the replies, some good points there as to whether the saving is really worth it especially given the warranty situation.

Could you point me in the direction of the dealers mentioned please, Cheers

[markstuk]

Mark at Bass Direct - [url="http://www.bassdirect.co.uk/bass_guitar_specialists/Home.html"]http://www.bassdirect.co.uk/bass_guitar_sp...lists/Home.html[/url]

[stingrayPete1977]

[quote name='sgh' post='1248452' date='May 28 2011, 05:30 PM']I'll be going to the US in a few weeks and was thinking of picking one up, Guitar Center do them for 999 usd !

Couple of questions though :

Power supply, can I just get a replacement uk lead and
Dimensions anyone know the boxed dimensions and also what the weight is ?

Cheers[/quote]
You need to be 100% certain the us version can run on 230v, There is many a basschatter that wrongly presumed that because the uk version has a 120v switching option either on the back or inside that the us one has the same and will just need a flick of the switch Mesa boogie and I think some Ampeg to name but two with sad tales of useless (expensive) amps in the uk.

[Musicman20]

www.bassmerchant.com

Darren will match UK prices. (edit)

Edited May 29, 2011 by Musicman20

[stingrayPete1977]

[quote name='markstuk' post='1248494' date='May 28 2011, 06:11 PM']My mastery of the internet found the following...

[url="http://www.tcelectronic.com/rh750-techspecs.asp"]http://www.tcelectronic.com/rh750-techspecs.asp[/url]

And a UK standard "kettle" lead will work fine... If you declare bringing it in you'll have to pay 20% VAT and possibly some duty... You'll end up saving £100 tops, unless you want to risk HMCE smacking your bottom.. And you'll want to think about warranty issues, unless TC have a worldwide warranty policy...

MArk[/quote]

I have a feeling the TC stuff will be fine as most class D amps so far appear to be but like I said in my earlier post and for future reference for anyone reading this in general before you order one you must be certain about that voltage. It was from a link just like that others have been caught out for lots of dosh. If the specs are for a UK model or from a UK site/ditributor then quite often the voltage from a UK model can be 'Tapped' off for 120v and included as an extra bonus for us UK buyers on the spec sheet for world domination! BUT if it has a 120v transformer inside for the US market only it cant be 'Tapped' for 230v as the windings dont exist inside. Like I said this may not apply to this amp but for future reference when comparing any electrical gear to the US version on price make sure its going to work, Me and Icastle (Ian) have had to explain this a few times in other threads and was the reason for this scam about sending the US version back to the UK for a refund too but it keeps cropping up still.


Simplified electrical maths lesson, If the amp wants 12 Volts at its delicate bits and you have 230V at the wall socket then the transformer could have say 19 windings which would give 12.10V at each, Take the power from one winding job done. Then if you 'Tap' in at winding number 10 and put 120V in (ie US) thats 120 divided by 10 which also equals 12V again job done. Now if it was a US transformer it would only need 10 windings of copper to get out 12V meening the other 9 needed for the UK are not there, Factor in those windings are in the hundreds or thousands rather than 19 or 10 and the cost of the copper etc and thats when it gets messy for the wise Basschatter that just saved a few quid! Did that make sense?

Edited May 29, 2011 by stingrayPete1977

[markstuk]

Except that the specs say "Universal 100-240V~ 50/60 Hz (100 W @ 1/8 Power)"


[quote name='stingrayPete1977' post='1248914' date='May 29 2011, 09:16 AM']I have a feeling the TC stuff will be fine as most class D amps so far appear to be but like I said in my earlier post and for future reference for anyone reading this in general before you order one you must be certain about that voltage. It was from a link just like that others have been caught out for lots of dosh. If the specs are for a UK model or from a UK site/ditributor then quite often the voltage from a UK model can be 'Tapped' off for 120v and included as an extra bonus for us UK buyers on the spec sheet for world domination! BUT if it has a 120v transformer inside for the US market only it cant be 'Tapped' for 230v as the windings dont exist inside. Like I said this may not apply to this amp but for future reference when comparing any electrical gear to the US version on price make sure its going to work, Me and Icastle (Ian) have had to explain this a few times in other threads and was the reason for this scam about sending the US version back to the UK for a refund too but it keeps cropping up still.


Simplified electrical maths lesson, If the amp wants 12 Volts at its delicate bits and you have 230V at the wall socket then the transformer could have say 19 windings which would give 12.10V at each, Take the power from one winding job done. Then if you 'Tap' in at winding number 10 and put 120V in (ie US) thats 120 divided by 10 which also equals 12V again job done. Now if it was a US transformer it would only need 10 windings of copper to get out 12V meening the other 9 needed for the UK are not there, Factor in those windings are in the hundreds or thousands rather than 19 or 10 and the cost of the copper etc and thats when it gets messy for the wise Basschatter that just saved a few quid! Did that make sense? [/quote]

Edited May 29, 2011 by markstuk

[Prime_BASS]

[quote name='Musicman20' post='1248850' date='May 29 2011, 02:23 AM']www.bassmerchant.com

Darren WILL match any price.[/quote]

Even foreign ones, how about duties that will no doubt be added on to remain in the law?

999USD would make it maybe 750£ but then you have to add duties charges, something that cost me 550£ in the states had an added 110£ once it got here.

The box is pretty big and would take up substantial space in even a large suitcase. Boxed weight I would guess around 3kg.

Edited May 29, 2011 by Prime_BASS

[~tl]

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' post='1248914' date='May 29 2011, 09:16 AM']Simplified electrical maths lesson, If the amp wants 12 Volts at its delicate bits and you have 230V at the wall socket then the transformer could have say 19 windings which would give 12.10V at each, Take the power from one winding job done. Then if you 'Tap' in at winding number 10 and put 120V in (ie US) thats 120 divided by 10 which also equals 12V again job done. Now if it was a US transformer it would only need 10 windings of copper to get out 12V meening the other 9 needed for the UK are not there, Factor in those windings are in the hundreds or thousands rather than 19 or 10 and the cost of the copper etc and thats when it gets messy for the wise Basschatter that just saved a few quid! Did that make sense? [/quote]
Not quite correct, but you've got the idea. It's the ratio of windings in the primary and secondary of the transformer that are important rather than the actual number of windings (of which there will be hundreds). So to get 12V from 240V then you need a transformer with a ratio of 20:1, i.e. twenty times more windings in the primary than the secondary. Likewise for 120V to 12V you need a 10:1 ratio transformer. By putting a "tap" (i.e. another connection point) half way through the 20:1 transformer coil, you get the option of a 10:1 coil as well.

"Class D" amplifiers, like the RH750 will often use a switched-mode supply, which is a whole other bag of tricks. So this discussion is purely academic in this context.

Edited May 29, 2011 by ~tl