Shambo Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Don't know what it is with all the P bass suspicion at the moment but this one's got me wondering. Could I have some opinions please? [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/vintage-fender-precision-bass-1978-made-usa-/170618425319?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item27b9a68fe7"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/vintage-fender-preci...=item27b9a68fe7[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomb Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 99.7% positive feedback, might be the real thing, im no expert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry_B Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Looks like a rebadged modern Squier to me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bass Doc Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Neck/tuners are El Cheapo - clever use of a fake decal. Avoid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlatEric Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Mmm, I've got a P of that era and I'm positive it is not a '78 USA. Read "200[u]8[/u]" MIM or as already mentioned a Squier. Definately re-badged. [attachment=75340:78p1.jpg] [attachment=75338:78P2.jpg] [attachment=75339:Precision_78.jpg] The neck would have a skunk stripe, the control knobs are flat on the top and the head looks like above - plugged. Not the real deal. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shambo Posted March 21, 2011 Author Share Posted March 21, 2011 Didn't think so. The colour of the neck is what I first noticed, it's far too white and new. Then other parts started to look shonky... headstock decal too close to the edge, no skunk stripe, no plug on the headstock at the end of the trussrod. Just the overall new apperarance. Thanks guys. I'm getting good at this. *smug* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlfer Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 That's 4 real thing P threads going on at the mo. Any Mods think it may be worth "Pinning". I know it's been suggested that these are reported to FEEBay, but there needs to be a very high level of certainty before that happens. Food for thought I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uke Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Definitely fake! truss rod adjustment on headstock a give away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 He bought a bass listed as 'Fender Precision P Bass Guitar USA *REPRODUCTION*' last July. The listing has long since disappeared, so there's no way of knowing if it's the same one, but the bass he's selling certainly fits in the reproduction category. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shambo Posted March 21, 2011 Author Share Posted March 21, 2011 I've just sent them a message. Hope they take it in the right way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iconic Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 [quote name='uke' post='1170519' date='Mar 21 2011, 11:59 AM']Definitely fake! truss rod adjustment on headstock a give away.[/quote] what is wrong with it? cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iconic Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 sorry thought the sunburst was meant to be the fake!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry_B Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 [quote name='karlfer' post='1170477' date='Mar 21 2011, 11:12 AM']I know it's been suggested that these are reported to FEEBay, but there needs to be a very high level of certainty before that happens. Food for thought I guess.[/quote] Yeah, but this is one of the more blatant examples of fraud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marky L Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 Pickguard is incorrect for the year, could be a replacement of course, but the above evidence suggests it's what this NON 78 P came with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shambo Posted March 22, 2011 Author Share Posted March 22, 2011 Well... he's replied to my message and is insistent that, "this is the genuine article". Bidding now upto £324. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iconic Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 at least you got an answer , I feel snubbed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cameltoe Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 Looks like an MIM Standard to me. Maple on the back of the neck looks remarkably clean. Nut also looks very white. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shambo Posted March 22, 2011 Author Share Posted March 22, 2011 Their reply: "Hi there please check out item number 140525314096 this is also a vintage fender and has the same truss rod etc also serial number is correct for a fender made in the seventies also check other pictures on the net some necks don't have the skunk stripe and as for the lack of yellowing it has simply not been used much and is in super condition this is the genuine article" - collystar That other listing is the sunburst 77 P that iconic has asked opinions about today, the one that looks real and well... different from his. I don't really know where to go with this. I don't want a row with him about it and I'm not reporting it to ebay because it's not my concern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uke Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 [quote name='iconic' post='1170812' date='Mar 21 2011, 04:09 PM']what is wrong with it? cheers[/quote] Truss rod adjustment is at the base of the neck on a "genuine" from this period the head should be plugged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iconic Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 [quote name='uke' post='1172772' date='Mar 22 2011, 11:41 PM']Truss rod adjustment is at the base of the neck on a "genuine" from this period the head should be plugged.[/quote] thanks for that 1/ when do they go to head end adjustment 2/ ....ohh and from when to when for body end adjustment ...this info would be great be on the Fender timeline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 [quote name='iconic' post='1172972' date='Mar 23 2011, 09:35 AM']thanks for that 1/ when do they go to head end adjustment 2/ ....ohh and from when to when for body end adjustment ...this info would be great be on the Fender timeline[/quote] Added. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iconic Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shambo Posted April 10, 2011 Author Share Posted April 10, 2011 It's been 2 weeks since this sold for £825.70 and still no feedback, positive or negative, has been left... hmmmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shambo Posted May 9, 2011 Author Share Posted May 9, 2011 Just a quick update on this one. The buyer left negative feedback stating, "the bass was a fake and the seller was unreasonable, but paypal helped me", to which the seller replied, "cash converters were happy to buy this original 1978 bass, this buyer was wrong". So look out for a shonky P-bass, coming soon to a cash converters near you... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bremen Posted May 9, 2011 Share Posted May 9, 2011 [quote name='Shambo' post='1224953' date='May 9 2011, 12:00 PM']Just a quick update on this one. The buyer left negative feedback stating, "the bass was a fake and the seller was unreasonable, but paypal helped me", to which the seller replied, "cash converters were happy to buy this original 1978 bass, this buyer was wrong". So look out for a shonky P-bass, coming soon to a cash converters near you...[/quote] Bet he didn't get £800 for it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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