steve-soar Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 [quote name='iconic' post='1171731' date='Mar 22 2011, 08:30 AM']me too....and when buying blind, even harder[/quote]I can't get my head around why ANYONE would buy blind for the amounts of money involved. It's like spending 4k on a car that you had only seen and having the seller drop it off outside your house and pop the keys through your letter box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thinman Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 I bought one. I should have realised as it said Squier on it. Actually it's rather good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexbassman Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 There do seem to be a lot of ebay sales where the seller is selling "on behalf of a friend" and knows nothing about bass guitars. It's good advice to steer clear of these "deals". I'm 'fortunate' to be old enough to have bought my '78 Precision new so I know that's not a fake! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iconic Posted March 23, 2011 Author Share Posted March 23, 2011 [quote name='BurritoBass' post='1172541' date='Mar 22 2011, 08:18 PM']I bought a fake. There was a thread about it at the time. I saw a CIJ Fender P-bass online for £350 that looked believable. It was £25 for Parcel Force 24 delivery and when it arrived 8 days later it had been sent Parcel Force 48. The second I opened it I realised I had a rebadged Squier VM bass. The seller was a complete fraud about it and suddenly it was being sold on behalf of somebody else etc, they knew nothing about guitars etc. EBay to their credit (& this was pre-credit crunch so they don't offer this service now) refunded me, banned the seller and let me keep the bass. I sold it on as a rebadged Squier (on here as it happens). It was actually a nice bass but I couldn't really keep it after all that. Interestingly EBay didn't seem that interested at first until I mentioned the postage being 48hr when I paid 24hr - then suddenly all my comments on Tuning pegs, neck finish and volume knobs were completely believed. I had to check about 4 times that they were happy for a refund AND for me to keep it. As I said, it's not a service they've offered since. Must have cost a fortune.[/quote] ...I've never had cause to complain to fleabay.....in a nutshell what [b]can they/will do [/b]about something like this nowadays? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlatEric Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 [quote name='silddx' post='1172174' date='Mar 22 2011, 03:06 PM']Wot, even a Ibanez?[/quote] Yep, even an Ibanez! Anything from their Classic period - 70's to mid 80's. Again, slightly off topic - I have 3 USA Fenders, the oldest being a '72 Jazz. I have loads of Ibanez, Aria, Peavey etc and have never been concerned or worried that I have a fake. I do understand the "living, breathing" thing - some instruments just seem to have that extra something but they don't have to be 40 years old, start with "F" "G" "R" etc. Don't get me wrong, I love my '72 Jazz but I also have many sub £200, 25 to 40 year old instruments that have that extra something. Talking of fake Fender P, here is something that is definately a fake - a Copy but has the "extra something" feeling and the "Ibanez" Blazers that are shown below it, will give any Fender Precision a run for it's money. [url="http://flatericbassandguitar.blogspot.com/2010/10/hondo-professional.html"]Hondo Pro Precision.[/url] I like the post that Musky has put up - lots of signature clues to check out. Your average punter, I'm afraid, is going to get fleeced, if they are not fully clued up. Yes, even an Ibanez! Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz Posted March 23, 2011 Share Posted March 23, 2011 (edited) I'd be just as worried over buying a fake 'vintage' amp, what with all the hullabaloo over a [i]faking factory[/i] that supposedly was in action for [i]two decades[/i] in the cellar of an (in)famous London music shop, and the looming court case. Edited March 23, 2011 by daz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubs Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 [quote name='RhysP' post='1172504' date='Mar 22 2011, 07:50 PM']The large majority of vintage guitars sold in the USA over the last 15 years haven't been bought by musicians, they've been bought by non-players with high salary jobs. Most of the really desirable Fenders & Gibsons are out of the price range of your average player, and the crap you couldn't give away 20 years ago is heading that way too.[/quote] Kind of back to my original points then; buying a piece of history. High 'non-playing' earners would, I guess, buy them as ornaments/showpieces. I very much doubt that high earners would be buying £5k, £7k, £10k+ mass produced vintage instruments purely as investments. There are far more lucrative ways to invest money than on a fairly unpredictable market that is, for the most part, based on fashion. I know there's a big market in 'breaking' them for parts though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteb Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 [quote name='silddx' post='1171931' date='Mar 22 2011, 11:35 AM']Talk to this man. [url="http://www.andybaxterbass.com/guitars.php"]http://www.andybaxterbass.com/[/url][/quote] Cheers, an interesting site! I was a little surprised at how expensive some of the 70s stuff was but equally, some of the older fenders were actually a bit less than I would have imagined….. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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