D-L-B Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 I take at least two basses to all gigs. Different tunings. Taking back ups would mean me carting 4 or even 6 basses to gigs where there's barely enough space to fit the three of us on the stage as it is... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razze06 Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 One bass only at gigs. If I don't feel confident enough about gigging with a certain bass, then that bass goes on the market. The Ned Callan passed the test with flying colours, so it stays I am considering getting a tiny head with DI or a just a DI pedal, cause amps do go wrong sometimes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drewm Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 It's worth keeping in mind that not all breakdowns are as easy to fix as a broken string. Something like an electronics failure could take a while to properly diagnose at a workbench, never mind fix at a gig. A while back Warwick had a batch of dodgy tuning posts - tighten your string slightly and PING! the thing would snap. Not exactly easy to fix while the band fill. I've not played a gig important enough to warrant needing a spare in years. If I did, I'd certainly take one. Back to the original question, my main bass is a 5 string, so I'd ideally have a 5 string as backup. If something goes wrong and you need to swap, the last thing I'd want is to need to work extra hard to re-finger the parts whilst I'm already potentially a bit stressed by whatever's gone wrong. Fortunately, I think I could pick up a backup Warwick for about a fiver at the moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawrenceH Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 One reason not to take a backup is it's one extra piece of kit to get nicked. Another is that it can take up valuable real estate on a small stage. I don't think many classical musos will take a backup instrument either. I have had electronics fail at a gig once, but it was a jam night and my bass was for general abuse. Since then I've made sure my soldering is solid but still wouldn't bother with a backup for a pub gig. The string break idea I don't really get - in an emergency I could always get by on 3 strings! Probably a lot of guitarists would actually rpefer it so long as it was a high string that broke As for the idea that it would be short-changing the audience somehow, by and large for me that kind of spontaneity is what live music is about. Check out Keith Jarrett's Koln concert for a renowned performance that only really came about because the piano was a badly-tuned piece of crap which he had to adapt to. No spare piano at that gig either! I'm not knocking anyone who gigs with a backup and it probably makes more sense at notated gigs but there are other ways of looking at reliability which to me are equally valid. If I wanted absolute reliability I'd just play recorded music. And bring two CD players. And mixers. And a spare PA. Wait...actually what is the most likely piece of kit to fail? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starless Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Always take two basses, neither of which is a backup. One fretted, one fretless. Make sure I can do the set on fretless (works wonders for improving fretless ability). Sometimes do whole gig with fretted (if feeling lazy) and sometimes mix it up. Only once done a whole gig without frets but that was tiring. Concentration and finger placement accuracy wears you down over a whole night, but like I said, it's great experience. I have to take two basses to justify the purchase of the Mono double gig bag (which is the bees knees). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluRay Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 I take a spare bass & DI. But bust strings are the least of it tho, eh. We 've had power cuts, blown fuses, toppled speakers (audience assisted), snapped guitars (being clumsy, not rock n roll), collapsing drum risers (very funny) and horror-of-horrors bass amp falling off the speaker and down the back of the stage - no idea how I managed that. We have a spare song with an extendable intro (of the sort than can be done minus one band member whilst someone takes a minute to fix something). The audience only ever notices if the music stops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfalex v1.1 Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 [quote name='drewm' post='1174835' date='Mar 24 2011, 04:07 PM']Fortunately, I think I could pick up a backup Warwick for about a fiver at the moment [/quote] I bought a 14 year-old Fortress MasterMan V as a gigging machine for dives. It's excellent. As for back-ups... No. It's one more expensive "asset" to have to keep an eye on, and the distraction it generates outweighs its worth. I've not broken a string live since I started playing... about 14 years ago. I give whatever bass I'm using a pre-gig once over, maybe swap out the battery in an active, but that's it. BTW, I never gig brand new strings. I'll always make sure they're at least "played in". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4000 Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 I suffer from "Entwistle Hook" syndrome and feel like I need a spare for everything (although ironically don't have a spare amp at the mo). I also once had a jack crap out on me during a gig and have never forgotten it. I have frequently gigged with one but much prefer to have a spare for piece of mind, even more so because both my main gigging basses are nearly 40 years old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRBboy Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 [quote name='Ou7shined' post='1174555' date='Mar 24 2011, 01:13 PM']It's a simple matter of necessity, convenience against the ability to cope with the situation differently. Tuners go on the fritz too (arguable more frequently than you snap strings at gigs) yet I doubt anyone on here would look down their nose at you for not taking 2 tuners to a gig. The concept of a backup bass is good and if it works for you then fine but the implication that you are not doing all you can by not taking a backup is IMO not so good.[/quote] I don't think it's fair to make the assumption that just because I take a backup bass, I don't know how to look after my gear! I've always really looked after my instruments and I make sure that they're well serviced, set-up and gig ready but I like to take a spare just for that added peace of mind. I always take strings and tools anyway, and touch wood, I've never had a catastrophic failure during a gig but I figure it doesn't take up much more space in the car to take a spare bass. I always want to appear professional, even if it's just a local pub gig, and make sure that we'll get asked back again, and having a disastrous breakdown mid-set could leave a bad impression. I'm more worried about unpredictable, freak gear failures instead of broken strings etc. If something does go catastrophically wrong and you've only got one bass, you're up s@#t creek. Just because you look after your car and service it, does that mean you shouldn't bother carrying a spare tyre? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ou7shined Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 [quote name='TRBboy' post='1175108' date='Mar 24 2011, 07:21 PM']I don't think it's fair to make the assumption that just because I take a backup bass, I don't know how to look after my gear!...[/quote] Who said that like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawrenceH Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 [quote name='TRBboy' post='1175108' date='Mar 24 2011, 07:21 PM']Just because you look after your car and service it, does that mean you shouldn't bother carrying a spare tyre?[/quote] You don't take a spare car though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bottle Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 If I'm playing in the main hall at church or a practice/rehearsal, then I'm likely to bring my Squier as well as the Ibanez, but only because it's in a different tuning and useful for certain songs in our list. If we're in the cafeteria downstairs then I'll just take my Ibanez and the Line 6 practice amp, because space is at a premium, and I often don't have room for a spare. So far I've not identified a need to carry a dedicated spare of anything apart from small stuff (batteries etc). I normally have my SansAmp to go into the PA with me all the time, so that covers most eventualities if the amp/cab should die mid-set. I think that if I was being paid to play as a band, or at a gig outside of the church then I'd bring a spare bass (and likely my SansAmp DI pedal anyway) and keep it in the car as a standby. But they don't come up very often. HTH Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRBboy Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 [quote name='LawrenceH' post='1175143' date='Mar 24 2011, 07:49 PM']You don't take a spare car though [/quote] Or do I............ [attachment=75643:carcarcar.jpg] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassist_lewis Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 I'm of the same opinion as the OP, I've been doing weddings and functions for the last 2 years and never had a bass break mid gig (strings or electronics). i used to use a 4 string and 5 string when I played for a jamiroquai tribute but I didn't like the hassle of swapping mid-gig. i read an interview with Lee Sklar who confirmed my feelings, if one song in the set needs a 5 string, play a 5 for the whole set. it was only when I joined this forum that I even considered taking a back-up bass. I did hear about a guy who forgot to bring his bass and had to borrow one from an uncle's friend who's kid owned a £50 chopping board with strings on it. A back-up would have been good in that situation! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janmaat Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 I never brought a second bass because rightly put, chances are it will get nicked. I considered bringing a spare guitar for the guitards may times... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 As my two gigging basse are relatively new to me (18 months max) ...I take 2 and have them to hand. I don't see the point of taking a spare and leaving it in the case though, so I don't. Mine are tuned up, sound-checked and ready to go and I choose which one to start with depending on that sound check. I might just fancy one over the other from that check... I have a spare everything but was caught out the other day not carrying a soldering kit which would have made the gig passive and it wasn't the gig for that as it is a difficult room and P.A config and a prestigous gig. One more bass to sling over the shoulder... how big a deal is that? esp when everything bar backline was hired in and crewed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhysP Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 When I was gigging I only ever took one bass with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jezbass Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Two basses for me every time. I play in a band where I need sounds ranging from old school passive Jazz bass sounds to the full and toppy sound of an active. Not broken a string for years but wouldn't want the hassle of having to change string if I did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogueporn Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 [font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Taking a spare pays off when you manage to break the tip off the plug on your instrument lead into a sealed barrel jack. Happened to me a few weeks ago.[/font] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezbass Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 I have other basses I could take, but I just take the one these days. Its just laziness really, but I'm ok with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Just one bass usually but always spare strings even though I have rarely broken one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Thumbs up..! I play finger-style and, although I haven't broken a finger for quite some years, I always have a spare 'on hand'. Of course, I got it second-hand. I suppose that without it, at a pinch, I could always hope that some kind soul would lend a hand..? Yes, it's stored in the glove box of the car, so it's handy to get at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twigman Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 I have only ever taken 1 bass with me to gigs. Most of my gigs are fly aways...you don't get many basses on an Easyjet baggage allowance. I might take 2 to my gig on Sunday, just because this is the first gig I've ever been able to take 2 to! I've never broken a string but as I made my new bass (a Warmoth) anything could go wrong!! - The soldering was an experience but through 2 rehearsals and some noodling at home it hasn't so much as crackled at me so I expect it'll be OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Progman Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 I always take a back-up, just in case. I think it's a case of not wanting to let the other guys in the band down of something should go wrong. I know this happens very infrequently, but sod's law says it will be the gig that's 100 miles away from home, on a Sunday night! An extra bass doesn't take up too much room in the van and gives you peace-of-mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gafbass02 Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Always, always take a spare here. Done 1000's of gigs and yes, I've needed it a few times. E String break during title track at rock city, stingray randomly packed up supporting sikth. I always have a reachable, tuned up spare bass onstage and a set of strings within reach too. As well as a back up cable coiled on top of my amp and a secondary option incase of amp failure. Just a DI on my pedal board and a spare in my bag is all it takes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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