Bloc Riff Nut Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 My trace V6 has XLR and Jack options to connect it to the speaker. The speaker (EBS Classic Line 4x10) has Neutrik Speakon or a Jack option. I already have a Jack Neutric Speakon cable, am I ok to connect the Jack side of the cable to the head and the Neutrik speakon side to my cabinet? Or am I about to destroy a toy? What do you guys use - Jack-Jack. Jack-Speakon. Xlr-Jack or Xlr-speakon. So many options, are they all acceptable? I've only ever had combos so this all new to me! Phil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icastle Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 As you already have a Jack <-> Speakon cable then I'd use that. As long as you only use one cable between the amp and the speaker then you'll be just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrenleepoole Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 I've never heard of using a balanced XLR out to connect to a speaker cabinet. Are sure that isn't the D.I. out? I could be wrong of course :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icastle Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 [quote name='derrenleepoole' post='1189271' date='Apr 5 2011, 04:50 PM']I've never heard of using a balanced XLR out to connect to a speaker cabinet. Are sure that isn't the D.I. out? I could be wrong of course :/[/quote] Nope. The V6 has a single 1/4" jack or an XLR for speaker out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloc Riff Nut Posted April 5, 2011 Author Share Posted April 5, 2011 [quote name='derrenleepoole' post='1189271' date='Apr 5 2011, 03:50 PM']I've never heard of using a balanced XLR out to connect to a speaker cabinet. Are sure that isn't the D.I. out? I could be wrong of course :/[/quote] The DI is on the front. This is on the rear panel indicated with the word [color="#FF0000"]speaker[/color] ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markstuk Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 My H&K BassBase 600 has both Speakon and a 3 Pin XLR Speaker connection.. I use OBBM's speakon-speakon cables for all my gear now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrenleepoole Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 [quote name='Bloc Riff Nut' post='1189283' date='Apr 5 2011, 04:58 PM']The DI is on the front. This is on the rear panel indicated with the word [color="#FF0000"]speaker[/color] ;-)[/quote] That would be right then Sorry, don't do Trace gear! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloc Riff Nut Posted April 5, 2011 Author Share Posted April 5, 2011 Even though it all seems pretty obvious, I just wanted to be sure ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icastle Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 [quote name='Bloc Riff Nut' post='1189283' date='Apr 5 2011, 04:58 PM']The DI is on the front.[/quote] And the back as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloc Riff Nut Posted April 5, 2011 Author Share Posted April 5, 2011 No. The V8 has a DI on the back, the V6 doesn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloc Riff Nut Posted April 5, 2011 Author Share Posted April 5, 2011 [quote name='icastle' post='1189296' date='Apr 5 2011, 04:04 PM']And the back as well. [/quote] I think the pic you posted, what a beauty by the way, is a V8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icastle Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 [quote name='Bloc Riff Nut' post='1189325' date='Apr 5 2011, 05:23 PM']I think the pic you posted, what a beauty by the way, is a V8.[/quote] Now I look at it again, you're dead right - it is a V8! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Foxen Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 I have an XLR to speakon lead for one of my amps, I think XLR is better than jack, as it is secured, they sort of predate speakons for people that figured jack was a bad speaker connection method on high output equipment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icastle Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 [quote name='Mr. Foxen' post='1189355' date='Apr 5 2011, 05:38 PM']I have an XLR to speakon lead for one of my amps, I think XLR is better than jack, as it is secured, they sort of predate speakons for people that figured jack was a bad speaker connection method on high output equipment.[/quote] It's quite amazing that the jack plug has lasted as long as it has - it was originally designed for use in manual telephone exchanges well over 100 years ago! I reckon that makes it the oldest electrical connector still in common use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 [quote name='Mr. Foxen' post='1189355' date='Apr 5 2011, 05:38 PM']I think XLR is better than jack, as it is secured, they sort of predate speakons for people that figured jack was a bad speaker connection method on high output equipment.[/quote] Agreed. XLRs were quite common as a speaker connection before the Speakon gained popularity. It handles more power than a jack. Because the holes are normally identical in size you can usually swap your XLRs for Speakons without too much trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plankspanker Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 [quote name='stevie' post='1189419' date='Apr 5 2011, 06:15 PM']Agreed. XLRs were quite common as a speaker connection before the Speakon gained popularity. It handles more power than a jack. Because the holes are normally identical in size you can usually swap your XLRs for Speakons without too much trouble.[/quote] Exactly - that's why I'm changing mine (AH350X) to Speakon as soon as Dave at bassic-bits ships the necessary. Just to add to the confusion there are varying opinions on the correct pin-out for xlr speaker plugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Savage Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 [quote name='stevie' post='1189419' date='Apr 5 2011, 06:15 PM']Agreed. XLRs were quite common as a speaker connection before the Speakon gained popularity. It handles more power than a jack.[/quote] It's also a pain in the arse to figure out which two pins are carrying the power if you've got an old WEM with the transfers rubbed off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyfisher Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 [quote name='icastle' post='1189268' date='Apr 5 2011, 04:48 PM']As you already have a Jack <-> Speakon cable then I'd use that. As long as you only use one cable between the amp and the speaker then you'll be just fine. [/quote] +1 That's what I use and it works fine. I'd prefer speakon-to-speakon but my amp only has jacks for the speaker output. But having at least one speakon connector identifies it as a speaker cable and avoids confusion with jack-to-jack instrument cables. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waynepunkdude Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 Could you blow up a sound man's board if you accidentally plugged into the speaker out instead of the DI? I once used an amp with XLR speaker connectors, not the connectors fault but it was the worst amp I have ever heard (Wareick Pro-Fet) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
51m0n Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 [quote name='waynepunkdude' post='1189944' date='Apr 6 2011, 12:01 AM'][b]Could you blow up a sound man's board if you accidentally plugged into the speaker out instead of the DI?[/b] I once used an amp with XLR speaker connectors, not the connectors fault but it was the worst amp I have ever heard (Wareick Pro-Fet)[/quote] Absolutely - that would be, err, expensive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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