Quoth'd Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 I've played through several Line6 boxes (from the BassPOD through to X3 Live) and am currently using the Bass Floor POD. The problem I've always had with them is that no matter how good the effects & amp simulations, I just don't seem to be able to get a decent / bypass sound from them. The tone is always sapped. Has anyone else experienced this? Is it worth adding a true bypass switch for the POD for the times I want real 'clean' tones or am I missing a trick? Advice appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 How are you listening to the signal? Amp/headphones/hi-fi? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quoth'd Posted April 6, 2011 Author Share Posted April 6, 2011 [quote name='cheddatom' post='1190073' date='Apr 6 2011, 08:37 AM']How are you listening to the signal? Amp/headphones/hi-fi?[/quote] Straight into amp. I've tried wiring through L6 and straight into amp - every time I go straight the tone sounds clearer & brighter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EskimoBassist Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Wap it in a cheap TB loop, that'll do the trick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quoth'd Posted April 6, 2011 Author Share Posted April 6, 2011 [quote name='EskimoBassist' post='1190126' date='Apr 6 2011, 09:34 AM']Wap it in a cheap TB loop, that'll do the trick.[/quote] Thats what I was fearing I'd end up having to do Not so much for the having to do bit but the added space it'd all take up when I get round to mounting everything on new pedalboard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyf Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 (edited) I found that with my Line 6 Bass POD XT Live. It sounded fantastic when recording, through headphones or at practice levels but I needed to do a lot of tweaking with the patches and input levels when using it live. In the end, I realised all of my live patches were sans amp modelling and contained effects only as I was really happy with the sound of my amp and didn't want amp/cab modelling. This led me to get rid of the XT Live and get a Line6 M13 StompBox Modeller which has true bypass and ONLY gives me effects modelling. Totally chuffed with it. T Edited April 6, 2011 by tonyf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 yeh i'd guess you have the amp modelling turned on, and you're putting it through an amp, so two stages of "amp sound". Try it with no amp modelling! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisnameistaken Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 [quote name='EskimoBassist' post='1190126' date='Apr 6 2011, 09:34 AM']Wap it in a cheap TB loop, that'll do the trick.[/quote] Or not, depending on the cable lengths in use. If you've got 20ft of cable to the board and 20ft back to the amp a true bypass connection between them is going to leave your tone to get sucked by cable capacitance before it reaches the amp. I would recommend a bypass looper with a quality buffer in it rather than a TB box. Maybe talk to Max at SFX he's good with this sort of thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quoth'd Posted April 6, 2011 Author Share Posted April 6, 2011 [quote name='thisnameistaken' post='1190245' date='Apr 6 2011, 10:46 AM']Or not, depending on the cable lengths in use. If you've got 20ft of cable to the board and 20ft back to the amp a true bypass connection between them is going to leave your tone to get sucked by cable capacitance before it reaches the amp. I would recommend a bypass looper with a quality buffer in it rather than a TB box. Maybe talk to Max at SFX he's good with this sort of thing.[/quote] OK I now have another project to build Going to put a pedal together giving me serial / parallel** options for clean & POD + a true bypass option to eliminate the POD from the signal chain altogether. ** I love being able to blend a clean tone with effects / distortion etc I think this would be an acceptable addition to pedal board - cheers for the advice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 I'd check that you have amp modelling and speaker modelling turned off. Or, maybe you bought it for the amp modelling, in which case it might sound better going straigh to your amp's FX return. Either way a clean blend would be nice, but I did think some PODs could do a clean blend internally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quoth'd Posted April 6, 2011 Author Share Posted April 6, 2011 [quote name='cheddatom' post='1190692' date='Apr 6 2011, 05:07 PM']I'd check that you have amp modelling and speaker modelling turned off. Or, maybe you bought it for the amp modelling, in which case it might sound better going straigh to your amp's FX return. Either way a clean blend would be nice, but I did think some PODs could do a clean blend internally.[/quote] I picked it up as I liked the idea of the Line6 Lowdown series but didn't want the Line6 combo (Went with the GK backline 210 instead). The Line6 Bass Floor POD does a couple of good amp models and some basic effects as I am a bit of a chameleon when it comes to sound. I have my sound when I'm playing my stuff but I like to emulate others when I'm jamming to covers etc and am always tinkering too. So I wanted the best of both worlds. After checking - the tone is different even when I set the L6 to bypass compared to straight through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Is it a bad difference in the sound? In what way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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