devinebass Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 Hi guys, here's a little tutorial showing you a lick/melody that can be integrated into your soloing vocabulary to help you target chord tones. Any questions give me a shout Link... [url="http://scottsbasslessons.co.uk/?page_id=567"]http://scottsbasslessons.co.uk/?page_id=567[/url] Easy, Scott [url="http://www.scottsbasslessons.com"]http://www.scottsbasslessons.com[/url] [url="http://www.scottdevinemusic.com"]http://www.scottdevinemusic.com[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmeDunk Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Nice one, Scott! Not gettin that slide note in the last part, why does that start on the Eb when B is the target note? Hope to see some more chromatic ideas over here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteb Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 Hey Scott Talking about soloing more generally – after 30 years of gigging I now find myself for the first time obliged to take a solo in the last song of the night! Bearing in mind that this is in a blues rock band and all I have to do is play something with a bit of impact that can grab people’s attention for 32 bars or so over a simple mid tempo groove in ‘E’ I have no problems at all playing runs or constructing lines, etc and have occasionally played ‘musical interlude’ type solos in the past, but I’m just not used to playing solos as part of a song – it doesn’t help that there two very strong soloists (guitar & keys) in the band! Any hints on how to get started?? Cheers – Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devinebass Posted May 10, 2011 Author Share Posted May 10, 2011 (edited) [quote name='peteb' post='1226702' date='May 10 2011, 08:43 PM']Hey Scott Talking about soloing more generally – after 30 years of gigging I now find myself for the first time obliged to take a solo in the last song of the night! Bearing in mind that this is in a blues rock band and all I have to do is play something with a bit of impact that can grab people’s attention for 32 bars or so over a simple mid tempo groove in ‘E’ I have no problems at all playing runs or constructing lines, etc and have occasionally played ‘musical interlude’ type solos in the past, but I’m just not used to playing solos as part of a song – it doesn’t help that there two very strong soloists (guitar & keys) in the band! Any hints on how to get started?? Cheers – Pete[/quote] Wow, a groove in E... the worlds your oyster lol!!! Not sure where you are as a player but maybe start with a minor pentatonic/blues scale type thing... you'll have heard a lot of these types of melodies before so it should be easier for you to come up with some solo lines through familiarity to that sound. If you can't 'hear it' you'll struggle to play it. Maybe try singing some lines over an E vamp, then work out on the bass what you've been singing. And... don't feel ashamed of working something out to play. After you've done it at a few gigs you can start to alter it 'on the fly' and after a while you'll be improvising!! Good luck man, Scott. [url="http://www.scottsbasslessons.com"]http://www.scottsbasslessons.com[/url] [url="http://www.scottdevinemusic.com"]http://www.scottdevinemusic.com[/url] Edited May 10, 2011 by devinebass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteb Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 (edited) [quote name='devinebass' post='1226748' date='May 10 2011, 09:26 PM']Wow, a groove in E... the worlds your oyster lol!!! Not sure where you are as a player but maybe start with a minor pentatonic/blues scale type thing... you'll have heard a lot of these types of melodies before so it should be easier for you to come up with some solo lines through familiarity to that sound. If you can't 'hear it' you'll struggle to play it. Maybe try singing some lines over an E vamp, then work out on the bass what you've been singing. And... don't feel ashamed of working something out to play. After you've done it at a few gigs you can start to alter it 'on the fly' and after a while you'll be improvising!! Good luck man, Scott. [url="http://www.scottsbasslessons.com"]http://www.scottsbasslessons.com[/url] [url="http://www.scottdevinemusic.com"]http://www.scottdevinemusic.com[/url][/quote] All dead simple stuff and I have no ambition to be a soloist and quite adverse to jazz - suppose that I just want to work out something that will get a cheer when I get introduced to the audience, which tends to be following keys player who's an extremeley hard act to follow...! I have been trying to work up ideas based round simple pentatonic/blues scale things but tend to find myself playing a succession of fast pentatonic runs until I run out of ideas! Will have to go back to the drawing board and try trawling thru youtube for some inspiration - I imagine that the secret lies more in working out some ideas in the phrasing of the notes! Thanks for the response my friend Cheers - Pete PS. if you're interested here's a clip of the band: [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJJ60x5o1Lc"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJJ60x5o1Lc[/url] (first gig with the new line up and probably the most simple thing we do but you get the idea) Edited May 10, 2011 by peteb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 [quote name='peteb' post='1226702' date='May 10 2011, 09:43 PM']...Any hints on how to get started??...[/quote] Good evening, Pete... Something to try..? Divide the 32 into 4 8-bar sections. Go easy (simple and solid...) for the first section, add a bit more for the second, and so on. The last couple of bars can be 'firework' time; anyway, aim to end on a climax. If you're following the 'hot' key player, you could try something really jarring to bring attention to your spot. A nice hefty silence, or a low 'pedal' note', should go down well (and allows for applause to die down...), then start building up the pressure. A solo spot is much better when constructed, rather than totally improvised, and relies more on form than virtuosity in order to be efficient. The 'hot licks' are extra (and fun...),but the form makes it all work. Please excuse my butting in; just my tuppence worth, hope this helps... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteb Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 [quote name='Dad3353' post='1226897' date='May 10 2011, 11:03 PM']Good evening, Pete... Something to try..? Divide the 32 into 4 8-bar sections. Go easy (simple and solid...) for the first section, add a bit more for the second, and so on. The last couple of bars can be 'firework' time; anyway, aim to end on a climax. If you're following the 'hot' key player, you could try something really jarring to bring attention to your spot. A nice hefty silence, or a low 'pedal' note', should go down well (and allows for applause to die down...), then start building up the pressure. A solo spot is much better when constructed, rather than totally improvised, and relies more on form than virtuosity in order to be efficient. The 'hot licks' are extra (and fun...),but the form makes it all work. Please excuse my butting in; just my tuppence worth, hope this helps...[/quote] Thanks for that – feel free to butt in all you like! I did originally try to construct a solo much in line with what both you & Scott have suggested, but unfortunately it didn’t really work when I tried to play it live (sounded fine at home though), hence t5he reason for the original post! Even though I have been playing a long time and am very comfortable on stage, I have never really had to play a solo as part of a song as such and don’t really feel as at ease as I do playing a song or runs in endings, etc. I think that I will go back to your idea and break it down into sections but start it off relatively low key and build it up to allow me to get the feel right. It doesn’t help that this is a very simple song at the end of the night to allow for all sorts of tomfoolery and general interaction with the audience and therefore can go off in all sorts of different directions and is never the same twice! Any other suggestions welcome of course………….. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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