lemmywinks Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 I'll say it again: Hmmmm..... [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=128602&pid=1197957&st=0&#entry1197957"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=...p;#entry1197957[/url] This wasn't a misunderstanding methinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toasted Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 (edited) Conclusions are being jumped to without Geester being given the chance to defend himself. This makes me feel uncomfortable. That's more or less the crux of my other posts. OTOH, I'll admit it looks bad. Edited April 13, 2011 by Toasted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waldo Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 [quote name='Toasted' post='1197994' date='Apr 13 2011, 12:03 PM']I think it's unseemly. I also hate the trial by basschat that goes on. Every **** throwing their 10p in on what they should have done. Revised suggestion: Make it public, but have a single post from the unhappy buyer or seller, have a single post from the unhappy seller or buyer and leave it at that. I had to laugh at the Bass Direct thread last night when Truckstop was whinging on, yet in a thread just over a month ago he detailed how he'd have committed fraud in a previous trade "if only his conscience hadn't got the better of him". Pure jokes.[/quote] I think you have an important point about 'trial by Basschat' and it often being unseemly, especially when people are too eager to say what they think when they really don't know the facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cetera Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 [quote name='lemmywinks' post='1198025' date='Apr 13 2011, 12:21 PM']I'll say it again: Hmmmm..... [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=128602&pid=1197957&st=0&#entry1197957"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=...p;#entry1197957[/url] This wasn't a misunderstanding methinks.[/quote] Doesn't look good, it must be said.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beedster Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 [quote name='Monckyman' post='1198012' date='Apr 13 2011, 12:13 PM']Speaking as one of the **** ,I think asking fellow forum members for their advice and opinions in public is totally acceptable as a way to finding a solution.[/quote] Agreed, it's a bit like idle gossip, it's unseemly at times, but it helps the people involved decide whether or not they're being reasonable or unreasonable in relation to the situation in question. The mods tend to keep a keen eye open, and threads that get out of hand get closed or deleted (or both). Furthermore, like ebay, the marketplace here wouldn't survive without the feedback system, and feedback only works if people are able to post negatives as well as positives. 99% of deals on here are sound, and I understand that a substantial percentage of those that aren't get resolved after a thread like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monckyman Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 I think a quick call to Guitar Guitar could clarify a lot. And the seller is a member and can post all he likes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 It's not like it's one-sided. Both parties have a right of reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toasted Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 (edited) [quote name='wateroftyne' post='1198057' date='Apr 13 2011, 12:38 PM']It's not like it's one-sided. Both parties have a right of reply.[/quote] Geester was last online 12 minutes before this thread was posted. It's now got 34 posts basically damning him before he's even offered a comment. That's not fair. How many will there before he replies, I wonder? Edited April 13, 2011 by Toasted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beedster Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 [quote name='Toasted' post='1198065' date='Apr 13 2011, 12:40 PM']Geester was last online 12 minutes before this thread was posted. It's now got 34 posts basically damning him before he's even offered a comment. That's not fair. How many will there before he replies, I wonder?[/quote] Most aren't damning him Joe, most - as is usual here - are debating the rights and wrongs of the type of thread. We really should all get more demanding jobs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 [quote name='Toasted' post='1198065' date='Apr 13 2011, 12:40 PM']Geester was last online 12 minutes before this thread was posted. It's now got 34 posts basically damning him before he's even offered a comment. That's not fair. How many will there before he replies, I wonder?[/quote] ..and if he makes a good point, everyone criticising him will look silly. Brushing it all under the carpet helps no-one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 [quote name='Beedster' post='1198069' date='Apr 13 2011, 12:42 PM']Most aren't damning him Joe, most - as is usual here - are debating the rights and wrongs of the type of thread. We really should all get more demanding jobs [/quote] I'm on holiday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beedster Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 [quote name='wateroftyne' post='1198071' date='Apr 13 2011, 12:43 PM']..and if he makes a good point, everyone criticising him will look silly.[/quote] Been there and have the badge. Several of them in fact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Difficult situation this, and think my way of proceeding, if I end up in the same situation would be: 1. Contact the vendor to see if an amicable solution can be achieved 2. If not, contact one of the Mods, for advice on how to proceed, if the above had failed - they may have better advice 3. Pursue that advice 4. If still not dealt with, leave feedback which reflected what had happened As Beedster said, feedback is necessary for both potential buyers and sellers, and can determine whether or not you wish to proceed with a transaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy67 Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 I wasn't criticizing him either. Would be nice for him to post his part in this. andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 [quote name='Beedster' post='1198077' date='Apr 13 2011, 12:45 PM']Been there and have the badge. Several of them in fact [/quote] You too, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beedster Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 [quote name='wateroftyne' post='1198089' date='Apr 13 2011, 12:49 PM']You too, eh? [/quote] Shall we form a support group? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monckyman Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Ditto, I was actually suggesting compromise. But it would be good to know whether the amp was tested properly in a shop and at what voltage. Could all just be a simple misunderstanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beedster Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 It's odd that these threads seem to kick off when Clarky's on holiday, perhaps he's a form of BC guardian angel? Right, back to work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB1 Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 [quote name='Beedster' post='1198090' date='Apr 13 2011, 12:50 PM']Shall we form a support group?[/quote] MB1. "So your saying you havent recieved this Warwick Vampyre bass then?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machines Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Interesting. Geester's thread appears to be a pre-emptive defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldman Posted April 13, 2011 Author Share Posted April 13, 2011 Gentlement, I just wanted a straight deal, it did'nt happen, I asked for my money back, he agreed to refund pending return of the goods, I wanted a reversal of the deal, i.e. I sent him money he sent me Amps, reversed it's simple, he sends me money I send him Amps. They are packaged ready to go have been since before I went on Holiday. I appreciate all the comments and I did wonder about the wisdom of posting, but I feel justified in attempting to illustrate how a deal can go wrong (in my experience). I think posting it in feedback would have been a second option, I posted here as this is where it happened. Just as a matter of interest anything I have bought has been posted to my place of work as I travel. My last two new bass purchases (Status, August 2010 & Overwater October 2010) were deliverd to my place of work. It is an unfortunate state of affairs and one that should have been resolved by Mike re-banking my money and me sending back the goods. But it was'nt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldman Posted April 13, 2011 Author Share Posted April 13, 2011 [quote name='Machines' post='1198118' date='Apr 13 2011, 01:11 PM']Interesting. Geester's thread appears to be a pre-emptive defense.[/quote] Yes, just as he said send them back for a refund............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beedster Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 [quote name='Machines' post='1198118' date='Apr 13 2011, 01:11 PM']Interesting. Geester's thread appears to be a pre-emptive defense.[/quote] So much for waiting to hear his side of the story eh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machines Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 [quote name='Beedster' post='1198134' date='Apr 13 2011, 01:21 PM']So much for waiting to hear his side of the story eh [/quote] He already posted his side of the story on 23rd March. This can all be resolved by comparing serial numbers. Surely GuitarGuitar can identify if the serial is the one they have sold ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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