BB2000 Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 [quote name='Bilbo' post='1200439' date='Apr 15 2011, 11:09 AM']Let's face it. Anyone who buys a signature model of any description is seriously missing the point anyway and asking to be exploited [/quote] True. Although I still might buy the Babbitt signature when it finally appears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassbluestew Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 Only if it g'tees to make me as at least as 100th as good as Babbit and comes with a spare sponge Lots of love here for the Funk Bros........those gone and still with us. Standing in the Shadows should be required reading / viewing for all new bass players regardless of genre played. In fact when I win the Euro Lottery I am going to get lots of copies of the dvd and make sure every music shop in the UK gives one with every bass sold to a new bassist. So there !!! S 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linus27 Posted April 16, 2011 Author Share Posted April 16, 2011 I watched it for the first time last night and wow, what an amazing DVD. The things that struck me was what a great bunch of musicians and all so supportive and friendly. No ego's or premadonna's. Just a bunch of guys who loved music. Also Jamerson came across to me as a very old fashioned, stubborn guy who had no idea how truely talented he was. Plus, why oh why did Motown just up and go to LA? Very strange decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 [quote name='Linus27' post='1201908' date='Apr 16 2011, 04:08 PM']....Also Jamerson came across to me as a very old fashioned, stubborn guy who had no idea how truely talented he was. Plus, why oh why did Motown just up and go to LA? Very strange decision....[/quote] Jamerson wasn’t stupid, so with that number of people telling him his bass lines were great he must have known his worth to Motown. I think he knew his bass lines were selling the records and I think that’s why he got so frustrated towards the end when the arrangers were just giving the musicians the dots and that accelerated his self destruction. The Funk Brothers had 15 years to evolve and they grew around JJ. In LA he was just another guy, and one that didn't do as he was told! He faced competition for the first time in 15 years and couldn't meet the challenge or change to survive. Berry Gordy wanted to get into the film business which is why he relocated to LA. I don't know why he felt he had to trash Motown in order to do it! Not a good business decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linus27 Posted April 16, 2011 Author Share Posted April 16, 2011 [quote name='chris_b' post='1201920' date='Apr 16 2011, 04:26 PM']Jamerson wasn’t stupid, so with that number of people telling him his bass lines were great he must have known his worth to Motown. I think he knew his bass lines were selling the records and I think that’s why he got so frustrated towards the end when the arrangers were just giving the musicians the dots and that accelerated his self destruction. The Funk Brothers had 15 years to evolve and they grew around JJ. In LA he was just another guy, and one that didn't do as he was told! He faced competition for the first time in 15 years and couldn't meet the challenge or change to survive. Berry Gordy wanted to get into the film business which is why he relocated to LA. I don't know why he felt he had to trash Motown in order to do it! Not a good business decision.[/quote] Cool, thanks for the info. Is there any good books about Jamerson or the Funk Brothers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vibrating G String Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 [quote name='Bilbo' post='1200439' date='Apr 15 2011, 03:09 AM']Let's face it. Anyone who buys a signature model of any description is seriously missing the point anyway and asking to be exploited [/quote] Harsh but true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Linus27' post='1201997' date='Apr 16 2011, 06:10 PM']Cool, thanks for the info. Is there any good books about Jamerson or the Funk Brothers?[/quote] [url="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Standing-Shadows-Motown-Legendary-Jamerson/dp/0881888826"]Standing in the Shadows of Motown - Life & Music of James Jamerson[/url] [url="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bass-Masters-Way-They-Play/dp/0879308699/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1302984405&sr=1-1"]R&B Bass Masters[/url] Edited April 16, 2011 by nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Linus27' post='1201997' date='Apr 16 2011, 06:10 PM']Cool, thanks for the info. Is there any good books about Jamerson or the Funk Brothers?[/quote] [i][url="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Motown-View-Bottom-Jack-Ashford/dp/1904408206/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1302984509&sr=8-1"]Motown: The View from the Bottom[/url][/i] by Jack Ashford (vibraphone and tambourine) Edited April 16, 2011 by EssentialTension Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingrayPete1977 Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 Are the frets wired to the mains after the fifth fret on the JJ sig models? Maybe that's why there's none about all the owners got cheeky and tried a bit of Stuart Zender stuff on them and electrocuted themselves in there spare bedrooms where all the sig models live Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vibrating G String Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 You might be thinking of the B. F. Skinner signature model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeswals Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 The only two Jamerson basses the family has (or had) was the upright and the '65 Bass V. Yes that goofy 5-string thing. And Pistol Allen had one of the B-15's, but who knows where it's at now since Pistol has died. But I remember the family advertising the upright as available back around '03. But don't know if it actually ever sold. I remember checking out the JJ sig models in Bass Centre LA. Even though it said Custom shop, it was assembled from nothing more than off the shelf MIA 62RI parts with a special neck plate. But it was still a nice bass! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AttitudeCastle Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 [quote name='Linus27' post='1200940' date='Apr 15 2011, 04:44 PM']Was that not one of Jaco's basses?[/quote] Yep! Rob Trujillo of Metallica found Jacos orginal bass of doom in a pawn shop. Apprently he is a huge jaco fan, and jaco got him into distortion I've got the article here at home somewhere! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lojo Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 If what you read is true, then if they did offer a true likeness JJ model, most of us would complain about the quality of the neck, the setup and strings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhysP Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 [quote name='wateroftyne' post='1200304' date='Apr 15 2011, 09:34 AM']To be fair, it was CS-built.[/quote] Fender Custom Shop = screwed together by an American rather than a Mexican....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vibrating G String Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Some think that's worth the extra $3k. Me, not so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 On 14/04/2011 at 23:55, EssentialTension said: "It was also available through the Bass Centre in the UK. And yea, it was a numbered run of 100." But where are they now? Rare, very collectible and so pricey, I guess. Number 22 was bought by Jason Newsted and is being sold atm, very reasonable at just under 10k https:/reverb.com/uk/item/83803087-1991-fender-custom-shop-james-jamerson-tribute-precision-bass-owned-by-jason-newsted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 4 hours ago, Munurmunuh said: Number 22 was bought by Jason Newsted and is being sold atm, very reasonable at just under 10k https:/reverb.com/uk/item/83803087-1991-fender-custom-shop-james-jamerson-tribute-precision-bass-owned-by-jason-newsted [quote/]The bass plays wonderfully though it will need a simple rewiring to repair the pickups which currently do not pass signal. After receiving a simple repair, this bass will make for an incredible instrument.[/quote] That will be why it's JUST UNDER 10K!! 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 13 years between posts! 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassybert Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 A Mexican player series Strat went for £1.6k 😂 People are weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 It's the owner of the signature who makes a signature bass sound different. Marketing might be able to fool someone into forking out thousands to buy a signature bass, but what's the point when you're only going to sound like you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baloney Balderdash Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 (edited) Any old Fender P Bass with a banana bend neck, with a relief of a couple of cm or so, and bridge suspension wires as strings, set with an action of about 2 cm or so as well, will do. Also don't forget to only use a hooked index finger to pluck the strings. Edited July 26 by Baloney Balderdash 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asingardenof Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 3 hours ago, EssentialTension said: [quote/]The bass plays wonderfully though it will need a simple rewiring to repair the pickups which currently do not pass signal. After receiving a simple repair, this bass will make for an incredible instrument.[/quote] That will be why it's JUST UNDER 10K!! So it's broken even though the plastic is still on the pickguard? Impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellzero Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 1 hour ago, Baloney Balderdash said: Any old Fender P Bass with a banana bend neck, with a relief of a couple of cm or so, and bridge suspension wires as strings, set with an action of about 2 cm or so as well, will do. Also don't forget to only use a hooked index finger to pluck the strings. You forgot the broken truss rod... 🫣🤪🤦 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanheusen77 Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 As a huge fan of both his sound and playing… If he would have played a Wal with stainless steel string people would have called that a “classic vintage Motown sound”. From all accounts he was not a gear nerd at all. He just got out there and bought whatever bass that was the most functional and established electric bass that he could find. Another counterfactual: If Sir Paul had not on a whim bought that Hofner, no musician today would even have heard of that brand (and I appreciate the Hofner sound). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 Its no coincidence that a db player chose, when pushed to acquire a bass guitar, the model that was specifically designed to appeal to db players wanting to acquire a bass guitar. Not being a gear nerd doesn't make anyone a hapless simpleton who buys whatever the standard choice is. A serious musician bought the instrument most suitable for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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