211dave112 Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 I have the Behringer BDI21 and have found it extremely useful. For recording it works fine, but I've mainly used it for gigs where I've just gone DI or where I'm using an unfamiliar amp. It's not very sturdy but it's more of a "on top of the amp" thing rather than a "on the floor" thing. It works great. For the price it's great to have around! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_bass5 Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 I had a VT Bass for a short while last year but never really got on with it. It seemed to change my tone in the wrong way, i also didn't want or need any distortion so I sold it and got the BDDI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algmusic Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 [quote name='bartelby' post='1237671' date='May 20 2011, 07:07 AM']I've got a Sansamp Programmable DBBI that I'm getting increasingly fed up with. I'm beginning to dislike the mid scoop. I'm looking at alternatives at the moment, I've narrowed it down to: MXR M80 DHA VT2 but also looking into: Radial Bassbone EBS MicroBass II[/quote] You should check out the paradriver instead you have suprior mid control and it's argued the best of the Sansamps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartelby Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 [quote name='algmusic' post='1238001' date='May 20 2011, 11:44 AM']You should check out the paradriver instead you have suprior mid control and it's argued the best of the Sansamps[/quote] I've heard that it's still a bit scoopy. Plus I need 2 channels really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73Jazz Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 In my ears the sansamp is colouring to much the sound of any instrument..so they nearly sound all the same, which isn`t bad for some instruments But if you like the sound of wood of your instrument, you better should check another preamp/di. If you decide for the sansamp..don`t blend it over 12 o`clock, which is my humble advice also worth a try is the aguilar tonehammer, end eden pedal the question remains..what are you looking for..a preamp?pedal?a di?an overdrive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gafbass02 Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 [quote name='phil.i.stein' post='1214341' date='Apr 28 2011, 11:14 PM']and a quick nod from me to the Hartke VXL.[/quote] Huge fan of the hartke here too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algmusic Posted May 21, 2011 Share Posted May 21, 2011 [quote name='73Jazz' post='1238705' date='May 20 2011, 08:50 PM']In my ears the sansamp is colouring to much the sound of any instrument..so they nearly sound all the same, which isn`t bad for some instruments But if you like the sound of wood of your instrument, you better should check another preamp/di. If you decide for the sansamp..don`t blend it over 12 o`clock, which is my humble advice also worth a try is the aguilar tonehammer, end eden pedal the question remains..what are you looking for..a preamp?pedal?a di?an overdrive?[/quote] As a lover of the sansamp, I have to agree, you shouldn't use the blend past 12, unless you a bass that you're happy with, but I think that's really the point of the blend dial.. With my old basses I had it at 3, but now it's between 9 and 1. TBH I like the blend, most of the others don't give you that option, which is a shame as you can really get the best of your bass and pre amp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartelby Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 I sold my Sansamp Programable BDDI and ordered a, white only, DHA VT2 last week. It's going to be a long couple of weeks until it arrives... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burno70 Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 I bought a Sansamp BDDI a couple of weeks ago - hated it. My tone disappeared and I didn't like the way it seemed to squash my fuzz and take all the meat out of it. I was trying to use the blend to get something I like out of it but then - whats the point of having a tone shaper if your trying to blend the effect out? I just wanted to try one out but I guess I'm too happy with my regular tone to require a tone shaper. Still after a quality D.I. though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73Jazz Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 [quote name='burno70' post='1264072' date='Jun 10 2011, 05:06 PM']Still after a quality D.I. though.[/quote] Then you should try the Avalon U5 which is amazing, you even hear the heartbeat of all the woodworms inside your bass Also a great deal is the Ampeg SVT Tube DI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted June 10, 2011 Share Posted June 10, 2011 [quote name='211dave112' post='1237865' date='May 20 2011, 10:33 AM']I have the Behringer BDI21 and have found it extremely useful. For recording it works fine, but I've mainly used it for gigs where I've just gone DI or where I'm using an unfamiliar amp. It's not very sturdy but it's more of a "on top of the amp" thing rather than a "on the floor" thing. It works great. For the price it's great to have around![/quote] +1. I sold my Sansamp BDDI and kept my Behringer, as although the Sansamp is a quality piece of kit, I actually prefer the sound from the Behringer, which to my ears, has a far more authentic Ampeggy tone, so much more use to me if my amp goes, or for recording, as I still end up sounding like me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyclaret Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 [quote name='bartelby' post='1237671' date='May 20 2011, 07:07 AM']I've got a Sansamp Programmable DBBI that I'm getting increasingly fed up with. I'm beginning to dislike the mid scoop. I'm looking at alternatives at the moment, I've narrowed it down to: MXR M80 DHA VT2 but also looking into: Radial Bassbone EBS MicroBass II[/quote] Could be interested if you decide to sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartelby Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 [quote name='tonyclaret' post='1284570' date='Jun 27 2011, 08:27 PM']Could be interested if you decide to sell.[/quote] Sorry mate, I sold it about a month ago and bought a DHA VT2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krysh Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 [quote name='73Jazz' post='1264078' date='Jun 10 2011, 04:12 PM']Then you should try the Avalon U5 which is amazing, you even hear the heartbeat of all the woodworms inside your bass Also a great deal is the Ampeg SVT Tube DI[/quote] +1 sold: bassdriver di progammable kept and like for special occasions: l.r. baggs para di, aguilar tonehammer, dha-vt1 bassoverdrive di kept, like best and main gigging preamp with di: gp lightstone twister best studio di for my taste: old telefunken v672 from the 60ies. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarethFlatlands Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 [quote name='tonyclaret' post='1284570' date='Jun 27 2011, 08:27 PM']Could be interested if you decide to sell.[/quote] Might be selling mine if I like the MXR, the Sansamp is too much for what I use it for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xilddx Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 [quote name='phil.i.stein' post='1214341' date='Apr 28 2011, 11:14 PM']and a quick nod from me to the Hartke VXL.[/quote] Me too, fab, and quite cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlapbassSteve Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 I've just bought a BDI-21 to spice up my Markbass rig's tone, sounds boss on it's own and the tube distortion is decent, however it seems to absolutely destroy the mids in a fashion I'd have loved when I was going through my bedroom bassist phase... looking forward to trying it in a band setting to see if I can keep the valve sound without loosing all the mids and promptly getting lost in the mix... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conan Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 [quote name='SlapbassSteve' timestamp='1357734492' post='1927375'] I've just bought a BDI-21 to spice up my Markbass rig's tone, sounds boss on it's own and the tube distortion is decent, however it seems to absolutely destroy the mids in a fashion I'd have loved when I was going through my bedroom bassist phase... looking forward to trying it in a band setting to see if I can keep the valve sound without loosing all the mids and promptly getting lost in the mix... [/quote] I feel exactly the same about mine. Is it too much to ask to expect a mid control as well as just bass, treble and "presence"? The presence control needs careful handling... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinson Posted January 9, 2013 Share Posted January 9, 2013 I bump the mids a bit on my LMII and go easy on the bass control on the BDI, sounds great to me and my band members. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby K Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Hello chaps, interesting thread! I'm doing a theatre tour next month with the Kate Bush tribute and it's gonna be no amps on stage, with in ear monitoring only. so I'm gonna be looking at getting something like this. Not sure which one though... Gonna be running two passive basses, both fretted and fretless (with some chorus on the fretless stuff, via my old Boss chorus pedal) - I know some of these have a facility for two inputs. Any recommendations anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlapbassSteve Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 [quote name='Bobby K' timestamp='1359019951' post='1948447'] Hello chaps, interesting thread! I'm doing a theatre tour next month with the Kate Bush tribute and it's gonna be no amps on stage, with in ear monitoring only. so I'm gonna be looking at getting something like this. Not sure which one though... Gonna be running two passive basses, both fretted and fretless (with some chorus on the fretless stuff, via my old Boss chorus pedal) - I know some of these have a facility for two inputs. Any recommendations anyone? [/quote] Probably worth avoiding the Behringer as it'll give you no control over the mids on the fretless stuff. If it's in-ears only I'd be inclined to get the SansAmp. Extremely jealous of your tour btw, that sounds fantastic- some amazing basslines in KB's stuff, especially John Giblin's fretless playing on Never For Ever... gutted I'm gigging myself when you're playing the Liverpool Phil or I'd have booked tickets before writing this. [size=4] [/size] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby K Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 [quote name='SlapbassSteve' timestamp='1359029054' post='1948623'] Extremely jealous of your tour btw, that sounds fantastic- some amazing basslines in KB's stuff, especially John Giblin's fretless playing on Never For Ever... gutted I'm gigging myself when you're playing the Liverpool Phil or I'd have booked tickets before writing this. [/quote] Mate, I'm like a pig in poo playing these songs, very privileged indeed! Yep, the fretless stuff (especially [i]Breathing[/i]) is my fave in the set. I have become a massive fan of Kate just from being involved in this. Gonna keep my eye out in the for sale section for DI's etc - cheers for the input mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_bass5 Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 (edited) [quote name='SlapbassSteve' timestamp='1357734492' post='1927375'] I've just bought a BDI-21 to spice up my Markbass rig's tone, sounds boss on it's own and the tube distortion is decent, however it seems to absolutely destroy the mids in a fashion I'd have loved when I was going through my bedroom bassist phase... looking forward to trying it in a band setting to see if I can keep the valve sound without loosing all the mids and promptly getting lost in the mix... [/quote] The secret with these boxes (BDI-21 and BDDI) is in the blend knob. Back it off a bit and you will get a bit more of the original tone coming though. You can also back both treble and bass knobs off together and this will allow the mids to come through a bit stronger. It took me at least a couple of years to finally find i could use my BD-21 with my MB heads. Then i progressed to a BDDI as it felt a bit more robust, plus i never used the presence knob. I think i actually prefer the tone from the BDI-21 over the real deal. I now have a Paradriver, as that does have the mid control, its more of an all round box rather than a SVT emulator, but i tend to keep it flat. The EQ on this thing is very powerful. Bobby, i too am very jealous. She has some very interesting songs and i'd love to have a reason to learn them. Hope it all goes well. Edited January 24, 2013 by dave_bass5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby K Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Cheers Dave, looking forward to it mate. What do people think of the Sansamp Bass Driver Deluxe? I see there's one for sale on here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlapbassSteve Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 [quote name='dave_bass5' timestamp='1359048091' post='1949042'] The secret with these boxes (BDI-21 and BDDI) is in the blend knob. Back it off a bit and you will get a bit more of the original tone coming though. You can also back both treble and bass knobs off together and this will allow the mids to come through a bit stronger. It took me at least a couple of years to finally find i could use my BD-21 with my MB heads. Then i progressed to a BDDI as it felt a bit more robust, plus i never used the presence knob. I think i actually prefer the tone from the BDI-21 over the real deal. I now have a Paradriver, as that does have the mid control, its more of an all round box rather than a SVT emulator, but i tend to keep it flat. The EQ on this thing is very powerful. Bobby, i too am very jealous. She has some very interesting songs and i'd love to have a reason to learn them. Hope it all goes well. [/quote] Cheers for the heads up about the blend, gigging in Manchester tonight so will try it out [size=4] [/size] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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