Passinwind Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 (edited) [quote name='JimBobTTD' timestamp='1499706681' post='3333049'] Does anyone have experience of importing an instrument with an Indian rosewood fingerboard from the US? I am asking in relation to CITES. Did you need to do anything special? This is assuming that the US seller has already done the necessary for export. [/quote] The Dutch buyer I mentioned in my last post had to get his own import permit on top of the two separate US permits and the physical inspection I had to deal with. The whole process took just under 4 months. And yes, the bass in question has an Indian rosewood fingerboard. Edited July 17, 2017 by Passinwind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimBobTTD Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 [quote name='Passinwind' timestamp='1500269441' post='3336510'] The Dutch buyer I mentioned in my last post had to get his own import permit on top of the two separate US permits and the physical inspection I had to deal with. The whole process took just under 4 months. And yes, the bass in question has an Indian rosewood fingerboard. [/quote] Thanks for your answer! This is what I have suspected. The information on a number of (official!) websites is slightly ambiguous, making it seem like it is only needed if you are a company that will be selling it on but, at the same time, making it also seem that you (as a private person) are considered an official importer and, thus, a company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcbass Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Is it anyone recently imported basses from Japan?How much hassle is now with CITES regulation and the rest,is it worth it at all? Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_c2 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 [quote name='bcbass' timestamp='1506271387' post='3377488'] Is it anyone recently imported basses from Japan?How much hassle is now with CITES regulation and the rest,is it worth it at all? Cheers! [/quote] About a month ago, sailed through (rosewood neck) with no problems. I guess its down to luck, since they're basically unable to check each parcel etc internally. Some exporters in Japan do the necessary admin/paperwork though, but mine didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knoxy26 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Was the bass cheaper than what you would get in the uk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subdub Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 (edited) Hi have just imported one from Japan. Using jauce. Good experience. The bass all in cost £250. Aria 1977 lawsuit era p bass. Edited January 22, 2018 by subdub Pedants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_c2 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 On 9/25/2017 at 19:01, knoxy26 said: Was the bass cheaper than what you would get in the uk? Yes, given the lack of availability of basses at the time, and (what I consider) some people's overinflated opinion of what their bass is worth. PS sorry for the late reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NancyJohnson Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 (edited) On 21/12/2017 at 14:21, subdub said: Hi have just imported one from Japan. Using jauce. Good experience. The bass all in cost £250. Aria 1977 lawsuit p bass. Tell me more about the lawsuit, please. Edited January 22, 2018 by NancyJohnson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subdub Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 2 hours ago, NancyJohnson said: Tell me more about the lawsuit, please. How I understand it......late seventies early Eighties the Japanese started making copies of certain guitars. The quality was so good that a cease and desist order was placed on them. I think Ibanez were taken to court by Gibson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NancyJohnson Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 On 21/12/2017 at 14:21, subdub said: Hi have just imported one from Japan. Using jauce. Good experience. The bass all in cost £250. Aria 1977 lawsuit p bass. 2 hours ago, NancyJohnson said: Tell me more about the lawsuit, please. 27 minutes ago, subdub said: How I understand it......late seventies early Eighties the Japanese started making copies of certain guitars. The quality was so good that a cease and desist order was placed on them. I think Ibanez were taken to court by Gibson. When I posted that comment, there was a degree of pedantry with concern to the original post. You're correct in that Ibanez were the only Japanese company taken to task (and by Gibson), which pretty much prompted them to up the ante with their original models (and change of headstocks). Fujigen and Matsomoku produced tens of thousands of guitars and basses. The Aria Precise/Primary range were no more subject to lawsuits than the Tokai Jazz Sound or Hard Puncher basses. People just throw around the word lawsuit like it's a badge of honour. Look, I've no qualms about the Aria being a great piece of kit (I've got one of those P-bass copies from 1978), but lawsuit? Nooooo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subdub Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Oh Jesus. Yes pedantic. Why Bother. Think I will give TalkBass a try. Why bother typing that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NancyJohnson Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, subdub said: Oh Jesus. Yes pedantic. Why Bother. Think I will give TalkBass a try. Why bother typing that. Why bother? The lawsuit thing has been covered here a ton of times and over on Talkbass as well; if you think I'm being pedantic or harsh, then you'll find guys over there that make me look like Snagglepuss. I'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade and apologise if I got your back up, but it really does feel that at one time or another every Japanese manufactured guitar or bass from the 1970s that was copied from a Fender or Gibson design seemed to carry the the word lawsuit with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_c2 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 21 minutes ago, subdub said: Oh Jesus. Yes pedantic. Why Bother. Think I will give TalkBass a try. Why bother typing that. It is an inevitability of a discussion forum that someone will disagree with you. On this occasion, the disagreement was polite and informative; but you have reacted negatively. I think you should think it over a bit. Of course, you're welcome to post on a different forum if you want to though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subdub Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 I have edited the original post to include the word era. So as far as I am concerned it is now factually correct. Thankyou for putting me straight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grahambythesea Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Just been looking at the Ishibashi music site. They have a fantastic amount of stock, but looking at the prices, once you have allowed for import duty etc, they are way more expensive than the equivalent are for sale at here. Unless you want something that may be rare over here like some of the Fender Japan models then given current rates of exchange they don’t stack up. IMHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 In fairness, Graham, most of the pro-Ishibashi posts on this thread were made before the UK voted for economic suicide and destroyed the value of the UK£. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Krow Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 (edited) . Edited October 14, 2018 by Al Krow Best not rise to the political provocation for once...this is BC after all, where we're nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grahambythesea Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 (edited) From 1st February 2019 the free trade agreement reported below kicks in. It may help to get basses from Japan, but there will still be VAT to pay at 20%. I read/heard that the VAT is assessed on the cost of the product plus the cost of shipping. Anyone know if this is true? The European Parliament gave its consent to the EU’s trade agreement with Japan, the largest bilateral trade deal ever negotiated by the EU. The Economic Partnership Agreement between the EU and Japan, approved with 474 votes to 152 with 40 abstentions on Wednesday, will remove almost all custom duties adding up to €1 billion annually for EU companies. It represents a clear stance in support of rules-based, free and fair trade “at a time of serious protectionist challenges” . Edited December 13, 2018 by Grahambythesea Updates info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_c2 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 AFAIK shipping is liable for VAT. I can only assume that its tax-exempt in the country of origin when something is sent internationally, so it would make sense to be taxed at the destination country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Vat is added on the combined item and shipping cost. I've paid it many times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlloyd Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 On 08/05/2018 at 17:31, Happy Jack said: In fairness, Graham, most of the pro-Ishibashi posts on this thread were made before the UK voted for economic suicide and destroyed the value of the UK£. 2015: an Aerodyne Jazz costing 55,000 JPY would have cost £282 pre shipping & tax. Today it would cost £392... something must have affected the exchange rate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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