Bilbo Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 You can't get away from it. When he was on, he was ON! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor J Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 When he was off he was still on, much of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toneknob Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 I put it down to a cool hat, alarmingly high-waisted trousers and Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icastle Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 When he was on I was out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor J Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 [quote name='toneknob' post='1259383' date='Jun 7 2011, 10:07 AM']I put it down to a cool hat, alarmingly high-waisted trousers and [/quote] Your thumbs [i]don't[/i] bend backwards? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toneknob Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 [quote name='Doctor J' post='1259707' date='Jun 7 2011, 02:11 PM']Your thumbs [i]don't[/i] bend backwards?[/quote] Despite what the ladies may say, the most I can manage is approx 55 degrees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyfisher Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Hmm. I have no doubt about his technical excellence and it's quite clear that many people derive great pleasure from his playing - which is wonderful - but, and I'm truly sorry there has to be a 'but' - but I just can't get it. I know I'm watching and hearing a genius at work but it does nothing for me. Perhaps I should see my GP about a referral to a suitable specialist as I know the problem must be within me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldG Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Watched both videos to make sure..... I don't get it either - but then I like at least a [i]bit[/i] of rythhm with my music..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc2009 Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Wow, the first video has that sound as if he's really digging in, yet you can see his touch is seriously light. I can't comprehend how he is able to play PoT that quickly and remain clear, and his harmonics sound unbelievabubble. I do like the melody of PoT too, so nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RhysP Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 [quote name='OldG' post='1259737' date='Jun 7 2011, 02:42 PM']......but then I like at least a [i]bit[/i] of rythhm with my music.....[/quote] You're saying there's no rhythm in those clips? Astonishing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wil Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Incredible feel, especially at that pace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toneknob Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 [quote name='dc2009' post='1259751' date='Jun 7 2011, 02:51 PM']Wow, the first video has that sound as if he's really digging in, yet you can see his touch is seriously light. I can't comprehend how he is able to play PoT that quickly and remain clear, and his harmonics sound unbelievabubble. I do like the melody of PoT too, so nice.[/quote] There's a quote somewhere where he said something like "It took me 5 years to learn how to play it, and another 5 years to learn how to play it clean" Wikipedia says this of the song: "It is considered by many a bass guitar standard, and is often used as a benchmark for a bassist's abilities". Better get practising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakenewmanbass Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 [quote name='OldG' post='1259737' date='Jun 7 2011, 02:42 PM']Watched both videos to make sure..... I don't get it either - but then I like at least a [i]bit[/i] of rythhm with my music.....[/quote] It's fine not to like it, to suggest it's without rhythm is just incorrect, granted it's a rhythmic language with which you may not be familiar, but it has great time, great poise and great musical expression. That it doesn't reach a large number of people is immaterial, it's still greatness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 [quote name='RhysP' post='1259758' date='Jun 7 2011, 02:54 PM']You're saying there's no rhythm in those clips? Astonishing.[/quote] My thoughts as well. Rhythm, lyrical expression - its all there. Garry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icastle Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 [quote name='flyfisher' post='1259717' date='Jun 7 2011, 02:23 PM']I have no doubt about his technical excellence and it's quite clear that many people derive great pleasure from his playing - which is wonderful - but, and I'm truly sorry there has to be a 'but' - but I just can't get it.[/quote] I'mafraid I just put him in the same box as Jimmi Hendrix - very clever, but you couldn't pay me to listen to it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_bass5 Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 (edited) The first video reminds me of a sat afternoon in a west end music shop, only no loud slapping, and the second reminds of waiting to die. Just not my cup of tea im afraid Edited June 7, 2011 by dave_bass5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4000 Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 [quote name='toneknob' post='1259383' date='Jun 7 2011, 10:07 AM']I put it down to a cool hat, alarmingly high-waisted trousers and [/quote] For years I used to think "wow, Jaco has double-jointed thumbs. How cool would that be"? Then I saw a photo. And laughed. My thumbs do that too, although maybe not [i]quite[/i] as far. I didn't know other people's thumbs didn't do that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo Posted June 7, 2011 Author Share Posted June 7, 2011 I don't care if some don't like it. Its beautifully executed. No rhythm? Yeah. Like a train A lot of popular music is based around a definitive and explicit beat. Boom, Whack, boom, whack, boom whack. All beat and no grove. Listen to Bach. No beat there either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OliverBlackman Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 to me he looked a little like Angus Young in some of the shots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slobluesine Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 i really think you have to get into playing Jaco's stuff to GET what he was all about, WELL worth the journey it'll take you on, even if you dont like 'Jazz' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slobluesine Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 i really think you have to get into playing Jaco's stuff to GET what he was all about, WELL worth the journey it'll take you on, even if you dont like 'Jazz' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_bass5 Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 [quote name='Bilbo' post='1260093' date='Jun 7 2011, 06:58 PM']Listen to Bach. No beat there either.[/quote] No 30min bass solos either ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakenewmanbass Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 (edited) [quote name='dave_bass5' post='1260164' date='Jun 7 2011, 07:48 PM']No 30min bass solos either ;-)[/quote] what are the cello suites then? some baritone... some bass.... 100% solo Edited June 7, 2011 by jakesbass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blamelouis Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Cheers Bilbo ...That has to be the best version of "Portrait" i've ever had the privilege to hear . And he looks so humble at the end . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteb Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 I don’t understand the problem that some people seem to have with Jaco I’m no jazz fan but to me it is obvious that he was one of the greats who transcended his instrument and his genre, just like Hendrix, just like Louis Armstrong and a very few others…… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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