Pete Academy Posted June 22, 2011 Posted June 22, 2011 (edited) Here's Rhonda Smith - Prince's bass player, along with many other credits to her name - performing a bass solo with Jeff Beck's band. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAynG1MsHkY"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAynG1MsHkY[/url] Edited June 22, 2011 by Pete Academy Quote
risingson Posted June 22, 2011 Posted June 22, 2011 I think Rhonda is a good player, but the solo seemed like the kind of solo 'expected' from the bass player of Jeff Beck and a little contrived. It's like the bass solo I've heard a thousand times before from a thousand different bass players, not particularly unique IMO I will always love her playing with Prince though, particularly stuff like this [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vITKFi2W_o"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vITKFi2W_o[/url] Quote
peteb Posted June 22, 2011 Posted June 22, 2011 Good stuff – and apparently she didn’t get the gig by sleeping with the drummer….! Quote
Pete Academy Posted June 22, 2011 Author Posted June 22, 2011 [quote name='risingson' post='1279065' date='Jun 22 2011, 09:21 PM']I think Rhonda is a good player, but the solo seemed like the kind of solo 'expected' from the bass player of Jeff Beck and a little contrived. It's like the bass solo I've heard a thousand times before from a thousand different bass players, not particularly unique IMO I will always love her playing with Prince though, particularly stuff like this [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vITKFi2W_o"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vITKFi2W_o[/url][/quote] Good post. What an amazingly tight band. Rhonda's groove is sublime. Quote
bubinga5 Posted June 22, 2011 Posted June 22, 2011 (edited) [quote name='risingson' post='1279065' date='Jun 22 2011, 09:21 PM']I think Rhonda is a good player, but the solo seemed like the kind of solo 'expected' from the bass player of Jeff Beck and a little contrived. It's like the bass solo I've heard a thousand times before from a thousand different bass players, not particularly unique IMO I will always love her playing with Prince though, particularly stuff like this [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vITKFi2W_o"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vITKFi2W_o[/url][/quote] Nice one Ris.. great vid this.. she totally groovin in this..this is what Rhonda does best IMO... what a track from the man.. thanks for the post Pete.. Edited June 22, 2011 by bubinga5 Quote
Doddy Posted June 22, 2011 Posted June 22, 2011 [quote name='peteb' post='1279078' date='Jun 22 2011, 09:31 PM']Good stuff – and apparently she didn’t get the gig by sleeping with the drummer….![/quote] I think she's a far better player than Tal,anyway. Her playing on the Prince DVD 'Live at the Aladdin' is great. Her solo albums are pretty cool too. Quote
Rayman Posted June 22, 2011 Posted June 22, 2011 I was gutted that she wasn't on the Prince dates at the O2 a couple of years back. Quote
peteb Posted June 22, 2011 Posted June 22, 2011 [quote name='Doddy' post='1279132' date='Jun 22 2011, 10:11 PM']I think she's a far better player than Tal,anyway. Her playing on the Prince DVD 'Live at the Aladdin' is great. Her solo albums are pretty cool too.[/quote] I was joking of course - mainly as Pete had edited his original post to remove a similar joke, presumably to avoid upsetting anybody! Not a big fan of either of their solo stuff but both seem extremely capable bass players and both seem to work well enough in JB’s band…… Quote
risingson Posted June 22, 2011 Posted June 22, 2011 [quote name='Doddy' post='1279132' date='Jun 22 2011, 10:11 PM']I think she's a far better player than Tal,anyway. Her playing on the Prince DVD 'Live at the Aladdin' is great. Her solo albums are pretty cool too.[/quote] I don't think 'better' is right, different certainly. Tal seems to get a lot of criticism, I can never figure out why. Quote
Vibrating G String Posted June 23, 2011 Posted June 23, 2011 [quote name='Pete Academy' post='1279050' date='Jun 22 2011, 01:07 PM']Here's Rhonda Smith - Prince's bass player, along with many other credits to her name - performing a bass solo with Jeff Beck's band. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAynG1MsHkY"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAynG1MsHkY[/url][/quote] POW! I Gotcha. Caught you with your funk down. Some great GCS licks in there. I saw this tour and remember a different solo. I'd have to agree it feels cliche and oriented to a rock audience. Quote
Vibrating G String Posted June 23, 2011 Posted June 23, 2011 [quote name='risingson' post='1279065' date='Jun 22 2011, 01:21 PM']I will always love her playing with Prince though, particularly stuff like this [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vITKFi2W_o"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vITKFi2W_o[/url][/quote] That's the sh..! I love Prince playing that cheap guitar too. Quote
Vibrating G String Posted June 23, 2011 Posted June 23, 2011 [quote name='risingson' post='1279164' date='Jun 22 2011, 02:35 PM']I don't think 'better' is right, different certainly. Tal seems to get a lot of criticism, I can never figure out why.[/quote] I think it's because she gets put on a pedestal for being a women and her rack (I could mean effects rack). Which causes others to attack her for being put there for non playing reasons. Both totally unfair things to do. She is not judged by the same standards a male player would be judged by. I think she's a great player with some Pino like sensibilities. Quote
Shonks Posted June 23, 2011 Posted June 23, 2011 that was a Larry Graham slap rip - probably ignored if a guy did it ( bitter or what - hahahaha! ) Quote
chris_b Posted June 23, 2011 Posted June 23, 2011 [quote name='risingson' post='1279065' date='Jun 22 2011, 09:21 PM']....I will always love her playing with Prince though, particularly stuff like this [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vITKFi2W_o"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vITKFi2W_o[/url]....[/quote] Just love that drummer. Quote
Rumble Posted June 23, 2011 Posted June 23, 2011 [quote name='chris_b' post='1279465' date='Jun 23 2011, 10:54 AM']Rhonda Smith 10/10, that solo 2/10.[/quote] +1 10 seconds of solid groove, would eclipse 10 hours of that .....noise she was producing for the first minute or two. She's better than that, surely? Quote
risingson Posted June 23, 2011 Posted June 23, 2011 [quote name='chris_b' post='1279472' date='Jun 23 2011, 11:02 AM']Just love that drummer.[/quote] John Blackwell! Amazing player, solid groove. Quote
Pete Academy Posted June 23, 2011 Author Posted June 23, 2011 I didn't want to open the Tal Wilkenfeld debate again, but I think she and Rhonda are equally as good. There were a few nasty remarks last time the subject was featured, especially as to why Tal got the job. She got it because she's an amazing player. Quote
4 candles Posted June 23, 2011 Posted June 23, 2011 why does every slap bass soloist man or woman one want too sound like marcus miller!!! Quote
Vibrating G String Posted June 24, 2011 Posted June 24, 2011 [quote name='4 candles' post='1280214' date='Jun 23 2011, 01:42 PM']why does every slap bass soloist man or woman one want too sound like marcus miller!!![/quote] She's not trying to sound like Marcus. They're both doing Larry. POW! Quote
lowdown Posted June 24, 2011 Posted June 24, 2011 [quote name='Vibrating G String' post='1280596' date='Jun 24 2011, 10:01 AM']She's not trying to sound like Marcus. They're both doing Larry.[/quote] +1 ...Very good. Garry Quote
chris_b Posted June 24, 2011 Posted June 24, 2011 [quote name='Pete Academy' post='1280131' date='Jun 23 2011, 08:38 PM']....I didn't want to open the Tal Wilkenfeld debate again, but I think she and Rhonda are equally as good. There were a few nasty remarks last time the subject was featured, especially as to why Tal got the job. She got it because she's an amazing player....[/quote] I read that Jeff Beck wanted Tal and Vinnie but they were booked to do something else so he had to put together a new line up. Whether you like the players or not, at this level they are all fantastic musicians at the top of their game. Quote
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