kedo Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 Played Cello and Double Bass at school, and at the age of 14, realised that a bass guitar was a bit like a double bass but easier to play. This led to an intensive period of playing in the clubs around Edinburgh. Thought I'd retired (for the third time)! but just can't give it up. Still being kept awake at night at the thought of selling my '64 Sunburst Precision and Vox Foundation amp for £30 in 1970 (first retiral). This cost me £134 with case. No choice of colour and a six month wait (I have kept this to myself for over 40 years but feel better now that I have shared it with someone) I now have a Custom Shop NOS '64 Limited Edition black Fender Jazz. Far too new-looking but nice. Now playing with some mostly younger guys . Looking forward to sharing ideas with Basschat members, particularly as I am looking to get a smaller amp which means I also have an existing one to sell. Cheers Jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoker Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 welcome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kedo Posted June 25, 2011 Author Share Posted June 25, 2011 [quote name='stoker' post='1281902' date='Jun 25 2011, 10:05 AM']welcome![/quote] Thanks Stoker. I remember Verithins. Is it red? Jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gub Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 Welcome aboard ,thats some story ,i suppose we all have things we regret selling but that one is a big one for sure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telebass Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 Howdy! Also sold my share of old Fenders (75 P, 68 Jazz, 69 Telebass), and regretted two of the three. The Jazz was a dog... Happily playing MIM and MIJ Precisions now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kedo Posted June 25, 2011 Author Share Posted June 25, 2011 [quote name='Telebass' post='1282021' date='Jun 25 2011, 11:56 AM']Howdy! Also sold my share of old Fenders (75 P, 68 Jazz, 69 Telebass), and regretted two of the three. The Jazz was a dog... Happily playing MIM and MIJ Precisions now![/quote] Hi Telebass. Yes I regret that very much. I also had a 70s Precision which I sold 3 years ago. It was originally chrome yellow and in my youth I thought it would be a good idea to strip it back to the wood. Of course I reduced its value to about a quarter of its worth. I am not all that familiar with the models. What is MIM and MIJ? Jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 MIM=Made in Mexico MIJ=Made in Japan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monckyman Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 Hello! Never mind the bass , it`s what you get out of it now that counts. Plenty of nice basses about, only one life! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kedo Posted June 25, 2011 Author Share Posted June 25, 2011 [quote name='Monckyman' post='1282138' date='Jun 25 2011, 02:05 PM']Hello! Never mind the bass , it`s what you get out of it now that counts. Plenty of nice basses about, only one life![/quote] Hi Monckyman, I agree. I note you have Mark bass equipment. Presently I have a rig and am looking for something more portable which can still deliver from the back line. Is this something I should consider? I have been recommended a Mark bass CMD 102p. What do you think? Seems like a 2x12inch combo can't compete with a 4x10 with 1x15 rig, but I come from the dark ages when bass equipment was big. Thanks, Jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redstriper Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 Hi Jack, Did you play the Custom Shop NOS '64 Limited Edition black Fender Jazz before buying it and did you compare it to new standard Fenders? I'm interested to know the difference in quality for the extra dough, but don't know anywhere to try one. I've also been playing a long time and still got the 'customised' '63 Fender Jazz that I bought in 1979. I changed from a heavy Trace rig to Markbass a few years ago and never looked back. I use the LM2 head with 2 lightweight 15s and it makes gigging a lot more enjoyable. Oh - and welcome to the forum. Steve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monckyman Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 Hi Kedo, I Only have a Markbass amp, and not had that long, but I`m absolutely loving the tone and volume from it.It packs away into my document bag and weighs sod all. I have old fashioned taste in sound and have loads of 15"s lying about but the 210 Eden I have is comparable to most of them for warmth and beats them on volume simply because the design of the thing is so much more efficient. So the 15"s keep om lying about and the Eden gets used. There are others better placed for commenting on the new and light range of cabs like Barefaced or the Markbass ones, but if you want light loud and deep,there are plenty out there and you don`t have to carry two large heavy cabs anymore. MM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanbass1 Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 Welcome aboard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kedo Posted June 26, 2011 Author Share Posted June 26, 2011 [quote name='Monckyman' post='1282621' date='Jun 25 2011, 11:45 PM']Hi Kedo, I Only have a Markbass amp, and not had that long, but I`m absolutely loving the tone and volume from it.It packs away into my document bag and weighs sod all. I have old fashioned taste in sound and have loads of 15"s lying about but the 210 Eden I have is comparable to most of them for warmth and beats them on volume simply because the design of the thing is so much more efficient. So the 15"s keep om lying about and the Eden gets used. There are others better placed for commenting on the new and light range of cabs like Barefaced or the Markbass ones, but if you want light loud and deep,there are plenty out there and you don`t have to carry two large heavy cabs anymore. MM[/quote] Thanks Monckeyman. I also have a taste for old fashioned sound and was brought u8p when 18inch speakers were standard for bass. They were of very low efficiency and usually driven by a crude 30w valve amplifier. I like what you say about your 2x10 cabinet. You have me convince that I don't need to hold on to my Ashdown Classic rig. Thanks again, Kedo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kedo Posted June 26, 2011 Author Share Posted June 26, 2011 [quote name='redstriper' post='1282211' date='Jun 25 2011, 03:41 PM']Hi Jack, Did you play the Custom Shop NOS '64 Limited Edition black Fender Jazz before buying it and did you compare it to new standard Fenders? I'm interested to know the difference in quality for the extra dough, but don't know anywhere to try one. I've also been playing a long time and still got the 'customised' '63 Fender Jazz that I bought in 1979. I changed from a heavy Trace rig to Markbass a few years ago and never looked back. I use the LM2 head with 2 lightweight 15s and it makes gigging a lot more enjoyable. Oh - and welcome to the forum. Steve.[/quote] Hi Steve. I bought my Custom Shop Fender from Guitar Guitar in Edinburgh. They are aslo in Newcastle, Glasgow and Birmingham. They have a fantastic range of basses including Custom Shop Relics in stock. I paid just over £2,000 for the bass which came with the original chrome accessories which of course come straight off and into storage for the future. It also has original reverse tuners which cause all sorts of confusion as you change from one instrument to another. I did play it in the shop and liked it very much. You can tell from handling the instrument that it is a bit special compared to the regular American instruments. The finish is unbelievable and the playing action beautiful. The timber on the neck is so straight grained. It's almost too good to take it out gigging. However, I would say that by spending £100 on a luthier set-up, any regular American Standard bass could be brought up to the same standard of playability, and the pickups may even be better than the vintage ones. Thanks for your comments about Markbass. I have been assured that a CMD102p will perfom as well as my Classic Ashdown rig. Not sure. Regards, Jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redstriper Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 Hi Jack, Thanks for the info on your bass, it sounds right up my street and I will be sure to try one when I get the chance. Did it come with period correct flat wound strings? As for amps, only you will know what suits you - I tried lots after deciding to go lightweight. It took a while for me to settle with the LM2 after my old Trace amp and it doesn't sound the same - it is more controlled and precise, almost compressed sounding, but I've grown to love it because it seems to work in any situation, has plenty of power and tone and it fits in a laptop bag. I'm not keen on the CMD102p but a lot of people are - I found it too middy and aggressive sounding for my taste, but it's certainly loud, although not exactly lightweight. I prefer a separate head, so I can choose cabs to suit the gig and I have 2 ultra lightweight 15s made by Flite in the states. The nearest UK equivalent is probably the barefaced compact afaik. I would recommend you get the amp first and try it with your existing cabs to give a comparison with your old amp and don't sell your old rig until you are happy with it's replacement. Steve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kedo Posted June 26, 2011 Author Share Posted June 26, 2011 [quote name='redstriper' post='1282925' date='Jun 26 2011, 12:08 PM']Hi Jack, Thanks for the info on your bass, it sounds right up my street and I will be sure to try one when I get the chance. Did it come with period correct flat wound strings? As for amps, only you will know what suits you - I tried lots after deciding to go lightweight. It took a while for me to settle with the LM2 after my old Trace amp and it doesn't sound the same - it is more controlled and precise, almost compressed sounding, but I've grown to love it because it seems to work in any situation, has plenty of power and tone and it fits in a laptop bag. I'm not keen on the CMD102p but a lot of people are - I found it too middy and aggressive sounding for my taste, but it's certainly loud, although not exactly lightweight. I prefer a separate head, so I can choose cabs to suit the gig and I have 2 ultra lightweight 15s made by Flite in the states. The nearest UK equivalent is probably the barefaced compact afaik. I would recommend you get the amp first and try it with your existing cabs to give a comparison with your old amp and don't sell your old rig until you are happy with it's replacement. Steve.[/quote] Good advice Steve. Thanks. No, stangely the bass came with round wound. Maybe I can get some flat wound to keep it exactly as it should be for the period. I might aslo prefer the sound. Regards, Jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redstriper Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 It's odd that Fender don't supply these basses with period correct strings because they are integral to that early 60s sound. I have only ever used flats and much prefer the feel and tone, but one man's meat etc...... My favourites are GHS precisions and I also like DRs and Fenders. Here's a review of the GHSs: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kedo Posted June 26, 2011 Author Share Posted June 26, 2011 [quote name='redstriper' post='1282972' date='Jun 26 2011, 01:34 PM']It's odd that Fender don't supply these basses with period correct strings because they are integral to that early 60s sound. I have only ever used flats and much prefer the feel and tone, but one man's meat etc...... My favourites are GHS precisions and I also like DRs and Fenders. Here's a review of the GHSs: [/quote] Thanks. I definately going to go for them. Jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telebass Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 I use Precisions with flats into a Markbass 1x12 CMD121H and a 1x12 extension. Big rigs are gone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kedo Posted June 27, 2011 Author Share Posted June 27, 2011 [quote name='Telebass' post='1283805' date='Jun 27 2011, 10:31 AM']I use Precisions with flats into a Markbass 1x12 CMD121H and a 1x12 extension. Big rigs are gone![/quote] Thanks Telebass. Do you think your 2x12 arrangement is better than 4x10 (CMD102p plus 2x10 extension? Jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telebass Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 Yes, if only because it's smaller! It's done a 400-punter venue at less than half volume...with no PA support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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