bigjohn Posted July 18, 2011 Posted July 18, 2011 It's not mine, it's a mate of mine's... I think it's easy to tell it's a 100W (2x50W) 2x10. But what else is a bit difficult as it has no serials, model numbers, it doesn't even have the impedance on it. Anyone got any ideas? I'm quite keen on it, but he's got no idea how much he wants for it. Quote
chris_b Posted July 18, 2011 Posted July 18, 2011 (edited) Wasn't that the T100? I wanted one back then but I wouldn't think it had enough oomph to keep up with drummers these days. PS It's a 2x15 cab. The only time I'd think of using one of these would be if I was in a Beatles tribute band. Edited July 18, 2011 by chris_b Quote
KiOgon Posted July 18, 2011 Posted July 18, 2011 (edited) [quote name='bigjohn' post='1308021' date='Jul 18 2011, 04:10 PM']I think it's easy to tell it's a 100W (2x50W) 2x10. But what else is a bit difficult as it has no serials, model numbers, it doesn't even have the impedance on it.[/quote] Check those labels again 2x15" I reckon Ah! chris_b was typing same time as me Edit again: Looks like they're 2 x 8 Ohm units wired in series so 16 Ohm as is, you could change it to 4 Ohm if you want to wire them in parallel. Edited July 18, 2011 by KiOgon Quote
bigjohn Posted July 18, 2011 Author Posted July 18, 2011 (edited) [quote name='KiOgon' post='1308040' date='Jul 18 2011, 04:21 PM']Check those labels again 2x15" I reckon Ah! chris_b was typing same time as me [/quote] Bit of a brain fart there! Yes. 2x15 obviously! It'd need a 100W valve head on it to be any kind of use. It's also quite large! Edited July 18, 2011 by bigjohn Quote
bremen Posted July 18, 2011 Posted July 18, 2011 [quote name='bigjohn' post='1308021' date='Jul 18 2011, 04:10 PM']It's not mine, it's a mate of mine's... I think it's easy to tell it's a 100W (2x50W) 2x10. But what else is a bit difficult as it has no serials, model numbers, it doesn't even have the impedance on it. Anyone got any ideas? I'm quite keen on it, but he's got no idea how much he wants for it.[/quote] As there are two speakers it's 4 ohms if they're wired in parallel, 16 ohms if serial. Quote
bigjohn Posted July 18, 2011 Author Posted July 18, 2011 [quote name='bremen' post='1308051' date='Jul 18 2011, 04:26 PM']As there are two speakers it's 4 ohms if they're wired in parallel, 16 ohms if serial.[/quote] Aye. looks parallel to me. Also it'd be pretty useless as a standalone cab @ 16Ohms. That said, it's been used mainly as a guitar cab in a studio over the last few years... Quote
chris_b Posted July 18, 2011 Posted July 18, 2011 There were a lot of 16 ohm cabs about in the 60's and 70's. Quote
3below Posted July 18, 2011 Posted July 18, 2011 Had a pair of these circa 1977. Replaced with Acoustic 361 cab. Seemed better at the time. Quote
4 Strings Posted July 18, 2011 Posted July 18, 2011 [quote name='chris_b' post='1308132' date='Jul 18 2011, 05:37 PM']There were a lot of 16 ohm cabs about in the 60's and 70's.[/quote] In those days amps were valves so you'd select the speaker impedance to match and so the actual impedance was not important. Also in those days two cabs were common so 2 x 16 Ohm cabs in parallel would give you 8 Ohms at the amp, which would be fine. 2 x 4 Ohm cabs would give you 2 Ohms at the amp which would not be fine so a 16 Ohm cab would be more useful than a 4 Ohm cab. Quote
bigjohn Posted July 18, 2011 Author Posted July 18, 2011 Ah. All good info... It looks like parallel to me : Anyways, it could be easily rewired. Anyone got any idea what a fair price would be to offer him? He's got little idea, he inherited it and wants rid as he's got nowhere to useful to store it. Quote
bigjohn Posted July 18, 2011 Author Posted July 18, 2011 [quote name='3below' post='1308152' date='Jul 18 2011, 05:53 PM']Had a pair of these circa 1977. Replaced with Acoustic 361 cab. Seemed better at the time.[/quote] Were they any good then or not? Quote
MrRatty Posted July 18, 2011 Posted July 18, 2011 [quote name='bigjohn' post='1308204' date='Jul 18 2011, 06:33 PM']Ah. All good info... It looks like parallel to me ...[/quote] No, it's series as KiOgon said. [quote name='KiOgon' post='1308040' date='Jul 18 2011, 04:21 PM']Check those labels again 2x15" I reckon Ah! chris_b was typing same time as me Edit again: Looks like they're 2 x 8 Ohm units wired in series so 16 Ohm as is, you could change it to 4 Ohm if you want to wire them in parallel.[/quote] Quote
chris_b Posted July 18, 2011 Posted July 18, 2011 Offer him £100 and get a cover. It looks in pretty good nick. You could have an appreciating asset there. Quote
Wooks79 Posted July 18, 2011 Posted July 18, 2011 Looks cool, but 100 watts won't be of use to a lot of people I don't reckon. Quote
4-string-thing Posted July 24, 2011 Posted July 24, 2011 Looks like series to me, which if so, makes it 16 ohms but only 50w handling doesn't it? Quote
GarethFlatlands Posted July 24, 2011 Posted July 24, 2011 I think its just wattage of most powerful speaker times number of speakers so it should still be 100 watts. And yeah, looks series to me too so 16 ohms. Quote
obbm Posted July 24, 2011 Posted July 24, 2011 [quote name='bigjohn' post='1308204' date='Jul 18 2011, 06:33 PM']It looks like parallel to me :[/quote] Nope. Wired in series so 16-ohms. Quote
bigjohn Posted July 22, 2012 Author Posted July 22, 2012 (edited) nt - wrong thread Edited July 22, 2012 by bigjohn Quote
Bill Fitzmaurice Posted July 22, 2012 Posted July 22, 2012 To be gig worthy you'd need to replace the drivers, brace, port and line the cab. Otherwise it would be an oversized underperforming albeit cool looking curiousity. If you or a mate have the skills to do that it might be worth the hundred, much or all of which you could recoup selling the drivers to a collector. Quote
Big_Stu Posted July 22, 2012 Posted July 22, 2012 Pity you couldn't find a ticket stub from the Shea Stadium inside it; the price might improve a lot then. Nice enough thing to have if you have the space, but as a working bass cab needs far more than it'd be worth. Quote
grenadilla Posted July 22, 2012 Posted July 22, 2012 Reproduction Vox cabinets made by North Coast Music in the States { well, one state=Wisconsin ] sell for more than $600. The speakers in this one are probably tired, if not half-blown. Fix it up! Quote
bigjohn Posted July 22, 2012 Author Posted July 22, 2012 (edited) Nowt wrong with the speakers. Cab belonged to my mates dad from new I believe and wasn't overworked. It's then spent some year being an occasional guitar cab / stored in a studio. I'd be happy with it as is if was using a valve head and wasn't bothered about wheels and weight. Edited July 22, 2012 by bigjohn Quote
bertbass Posted July 22, 2012 Posted July 22, 2012 Had a a pair of T60 cabs, similar size but a 15" and a 12" in each. The speakers had been changed by a previous owner to cheap EVs, Stage Sound if I remember correctly and with a Roost 100w valve head they sounded incredible especially with the 4001 I had at the time. The roost developed a fault so I used a GK200w head instead but it lost the immense sound with the GK, just sounded flat and lifeless which bought on a severe case of GAS. The new owner of the cabs was equally impressed with them though. I did get the Roost back eventually but that went as well. I've always regretted that. Quote
Bill Fitzmaurice Posted July 22, 2012 Posted July 22, 2012 [quote name='bigjohn' timestamp='1342973768' post='1743305'] Nowt wrong with the speakers. Cab belonged to my mates dad from new I believe and wasn't overworked. It's then spent some year being an occasional guitar cab / stored in a studio. [/quote]It's not a matter of anything beiong wrong with them, just the fact that 50 watt fifteens of that era generally were displacement limited to perhaps 30 watts before farting out. That's a mighty big box to haul about for such a small result. Quote
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