mentalextra Posted August 7, 2011 Posted August 7, 2011 Is it possible to spot genuine Fender tuners without dismantling. Is there a subtle giveaway or slight design feature that you only find on geniune hardware? Cheers Quote
mentalextra Posted August 7, 2011 Author Posted August 7, 2011 (edited) I am amazed that they dont put the "Fender" logo on every little thing! Edited August 7, 2011 by mentalextra Quote
icastle Posted August 7, 2011 Posted August 7, 2011 [quote name='mentalextra' post='1331440' date='Aug 7 2011, 09:58 PM']I am amazed that they dont put the "Fender" logo on every little thing![/quote] Do that and the prices will rocket. Quote
mentalextra Posted August 7, 2011 Author Posted August 7, 2011 Yeah, hopefully they wont read my post! Quote
mentalextra Posted August 16, 2011 Author Posted August 16, 2011 Is there anything I can do to restore my old machine heads. Guitar seems to need constant tuning, I guess they are the weak link now. Just about the only thing left to change on my bitza jazz! Quote
Ou7shined Posted August 16, 2011 Posted August 16, 2011 If you've tightened the screw in the back of the capstan and it is still doing it, I'd suggest it's your neck that is shifting as tuners don't tend to unwind. Quote
mentalextra Posted August 16, 2011 Author Posted August 16, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Ou7shined' post='1342470' date='Aug 16 2011, 09:58 PM']If you've tightened the screw in the back of the capstan and it is still doing it, I'd suggest it's your neck that is shifting as tuners don't tend to unwind.[/quote] What do you mean by shifting, its not tight to the body? Edited August 16, 2011 by mentalextra Quote
Ou7shined Posted August 16, 2011 Posted August 16, 2011 [quote name='mentalextra' post='1342509' date='Aug 16 2011, 10:38 PM']What do you mean by shifting, its not tight to the body?[/quote] I just mean some necks will be less stable than others under tension. Heat, cold, ambient moisture even tuning can cause continual movement in a weaker neck. Quote
mentalextra Posted August 17, 2011 Author Posted August 17, 2011 OK. So if a "quality" tuner doesnt affect the guitar staying in tune why bother with them. I was under the impression that cheap tuners mean constant re tuning? Quote
Ou7shined Posted August 17, 2011 Posted August 17, 2011 [quote name='mentalextra' post='1342847' date='Aug 17 2011, 10:38 AM']OK. So if a "quality" tuner doesnt affect the guitar staying in tune why bother with them. I was under the impression that cheap tuners mean constant re tuning?[/quote] Beats me mate. People will buy anything if they are told to. Because of the physics of the 90 deg angle that bass tuners are at it is almost impossible for them to unwind themselves in say the way that some acoustic or older style tuners can. When I buy tuners (apart from design and dimension) it's based on the feel and how hard wearing they are. Some cheap makes are constructed from real low quality metal which wears out in no time... especially if they aren't fitted properly and the capstan is misaligned with the front bushing - resulting in poor operation (grinding) and ultimately rattly gears. Buying a "name" tuner is only an assurance of the factors I've mentioned above. For me personally, it's Schaller or Hipshot (aesthetics play a part too). But I will also build guitars with fender parts because that's what people are comfortable with. But at the end of the day Schaller or Hipshot will not "hold tune" any better or worse than say Squier. Quote
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