LM3 vs F500

[stevie]

[quote name='alexclaber' post='1337534' date='Aug 12 2011, 12:45 PM']The weight or density of the cab has absolutely no bearing on the tone or the bottom end [b]if[/b] it's made properly.[/quote]
Although I've never seen a prosound bass cab made of anything less than 3/4" birch ply.

[Musicman20]

My other option here is to keep the Streamliner 900, and buy the LM3 outright with the money from the RS212. Whichever way, I get the LM3 again, but its whether I try a Markbass cab or keep the STL 900. Its a nice amp...sometimes a bit too thick and syrupy, which I cant believe im saying!

[dave_bass5]

[quote name='Musicman20' post='1337702' date='Aug 12 2011, 02:42 PM']My other option here is to keep the Streamliner 900,[/quote]

Dont even think about that. Thats what i did but it was only putting off the inevitable.

You have outline all the reasons for getting rid of it, they are all valid reasons and you really dont need 3 heads.

Stick to the plan, otherwise this will never end ;-)

And you still haven't got that CV yet :-)

Edited August 12, 2011 by dave_bass5

[Musicman20]

Hi Dave

You are completely right, I know. Its a case of having basses with a lot of power and thump in the low end, with an amp thats also very bass heavy....which can lead to a certain muddyness. Never had it with other amps.

I think a few people might be shocked that id consider going back to an amp with less features and less power, but lets face it, its about sound quality, not anything else.

Ive just had a look at the 1212L size, and you are right. I never knew they were similar sizes. Your 1212L will be shorter if stood on its end by about 4-5 inches so they can get that driver angled. But then its bigger in other areas, so a fairly similar footprint. The NY122 is longer and thinner.

Do you find it quite easy to get to gigs? The 1212L is about 3 lbs or so lighter, not that its a big deal, but similar size.

[dave_bass5]

Hi Gareth.
I think most MB owners will understand completely. Its all very well having loads of knobs and sliders but if the basic character of the head doesn't suit i dont think you can ever get around that.

Knowing that the LMIII worked for you before should be a good indication that it will again.
In may case i was tempted away, not so much because i wasn't happy, i just thought the grass might be greener on the other side and of course this time it wasn't.

I've felt a bit awkward expressing my feelings in the GB thread's, due to the fact that i didnt want to upset anyone (you know what those Americans are like), and especially not Aged Horse (i think that was his user name) but no, i dont think its a great head unless you are after a specific tone and dont expect much more from it.
They all seem to be using almost the same cabs as well. I really thought the Streamliner was a one trick pony whereas ive always felt my MB heads could cope with most tones ive needed.

There, ive said it, bring it on lol.

Even though my 1212L is light i dont like carrying it too much. Its ok i guess, and i can carry it using just one hand so for that it works well. Not sure how i would get on with a longer cab, that might need two hands but really, this is just me being lazy. Compared to any of the other cabs/combo's the band use mine i s a please to carry (although still no else does ) and compared to my old 1210R the 1212L is like carrying a leads bag.

[Musicman20]

I got another email from Peter Murray, and he said the NY122 should cover a lot of ground. If I was to have both the 122 and Club 102 in a test, the 122 would sound significantly larger and will go much louder without breaking a sweat. The Club 102 is great for smaller gigs or just monitoring, but it wont have the sheer grunt of the 122.

[dave_bass5]

The NY122 does seems like a good match for the LMIII. Much better to turn down than to push the cab too hard IME.

[Musicman20]

I figure if I want a 2x10, I can just use the TC RS210, which is actually a really nice cabinet, hence why Im keeping two and selling the RS212. I stupidly thought Id use all three TC cabs together. Never happened.

Sod it, NY122 it is. In the long run its cheaper as I dont have to add another cabinet.

[dave_bass5]

[quote name='Musicman20' post='1337817' date='Aug 12 2011, 03:56 PM']I figure if I want a 2x10, I can just use the TC RS210, which is actually a really nice cabinet, hence why Im keeping two and selling the RS212. I stupidly thought Id use all three TC cabs together. Never happened.

Sod it, NY122 it is. In the long run its cheaper as I dont have to add another cabinet.[/quote]

Good man, wise decision. Cant wait till monday to see what changes ;-)

OT. I might be ordering my Squier MF next week.

Edited August 12, 2011 by dave_bass5

[JTUK]

[quote name='dave_bass5' post='1337792' date='Aug 12 2011, 03:42 PM']Its all very well having loads of knobs and sliders but if the basic character of the head doesn't suit i dont think you can ever get around that.[/quote]


So true...don't fight it as it is the way to really tie yourself up in knots, IMO.
If it doesn't work..and it isn't the bass, then move on.

[Prime_BASS]

[quote name='Musicman20' post='1337817' date='Aug 12 2011, 03:56 PM']I figure if I want a 2x10, I can just use the TC RS210, which is actually a really nice cabinet, hence why Im keeping two and selling the RS212. I stupidly thought Id use all three TC cabs together. Never happened.

Sod it, NY122 it is. In the long run its cheaper as I dont have to add another cabinet.[/quote]


I have no doubt that the NY122 is a stronger cab (in sound) than the combination of club cabs, because it's made fairly better, i.e proper bracing ad better drivers. The markbass range is rather strange to me. Personally I think they need a cut down as they make "lightweight" stuff but there are 3 different versions of 2x10 all different weights.....
My favourite cab of theirs is the 604, but I wouldn't want to use jut one. Also the S12T is a much better cab overall, and matches well with 9 out of 10 of these high powered lightweight heads.
You get out what ever you put in, and I can't praise Alex or his wizard team enough.

[Musicman20]

I'll report back when it arrives. It should cover all my gigs and be small enough to cart about.

I have no doubt the BF does it's job, but it's more money than I paid, plus I wanted to stick with Markbass. In addition, I prefer the MB high quality carpet for heavy gigging over the spray on finish which I have on other cabs as well.

Thats not the whole reason, but I wanted the NY122 anyway after hearing it before. Very flat powerful response. Clear, clean, loud, small footprint, etc.

[Musicman20]

OT - After extensive testing, the RS212 is too good to give up, no matter what pricepoint.

They are now £100 more than I paid, and they have a very balanced tone...meaty, sweet high end, no piercing/shrill highs, just smooth and clear treble.

I would be spending a lot to get a cabinet thats only 3 lbs lighter. Doesnt seem to be much point, plus I have the cover for the RS212 already, and it works well with my other amps and the TC cabinets.

I am going to get a LM3 though, because they work with anything!