Thinking of selling the 4's?

[stingrayPete1977]

As some of you know I [i]love[/i] my pre EB Ray and my bought new by me 2002 Ray4 but since getting the 5'er they are not getting as much use. I play live gigs for a local singer songwriter called Dave Barron who has written and recorded all the parts on an OLP Tony Levin MM5 so last year I bought my first 5 to be able to play the shows (cant be done downtuned beleive me and I have already made the switch so its not a "whats a 5'er for" thread).
I quit two long term covers bands at the same time around christmas where I could use 4 or 5 strings for the whole set and rotate my gear so the only gigs I had to do on the 5 was the Dave Barron Band stuff so the 5 is the main bass at the moment. I have a new covers band thats only just getting the songs together and a few rehersals here and there but nothing serious, My plan is/was to use only the 4 stringers for those rehersals so I can gig my 4's again but part of me deep down is saying thats stupid and just being sentimental for the sake of it, just use the 5 for everything. I wont sell my 4's without replacing them with a suitable 5 leaving me with two 5's to choose from as the money will just get swallowed by general house bills etc. The Jazz 4 will stay as its worth more to me and everyone should have a good Jazz IMO, That leaves me with the two Ray4's to sell/trade to a combined value I guess around £2300-2400 which should be a nice bass! The thing is I love my pre EB its the best 4 string bass I have ever played bar none, the chances of finding another in that condition are very slim and only going to cost me more to replace in future, Likewise the 2002 was my main bass for nearly 10 years and almost all my original band stuff was recorded on it.

EBS freak accused me of gassing like you lot but Im not sure it is, If the pre EB had another string It would be the perfect bass which suggests a Classic Ray5 purchase is in order? I dont want a new bass for the sake of it, I want the exact same ones I have now but all with 5 strings! The Ray4 is covered by my Ray5 as its maple and 3 EQ so logical choice would be a nice Jazz 5 of some sort?


Confused....................................

[stingrayPete1977]

This is perfect
[url="http://www.bassdirect.co.uk/bass_guitar_specialists/MM_SR_CL5_PB.html"]http://www.bassdirect.co.uk/bass_guitar_sp..._SR_CL5_PB.html[/url]
This is nice
[url="http://www.bassdirect.co.uk/bass_guitar_specialists/Clover_Apeiron_H.5.html"]http://www.bassdirect.co.uk/bass_guitar_sp...peiron_H.5.html[/url]
Gassed for this when I bought the Ray5
[url="http://www.bassdirect.co.uk/bass_guitar_specialists/Jabba_5_Sunb.html"]http://www.bassdirect.co.uk/bass_guitar_sp...bba_5_Sunb.html[/url]
This intrigues me and is just within budget
[url="http://www.bassdirect.co.uk/bass_guitar_specialists/OW_Classic_J5_3TSB.html"]http://www.bassdirect.co.uk/bass_guitar_sp...ic_J5_3TSB.html[/url]
These are awesome,if you have never tried one then you should!
[url="http://www.bassdirect.co.uk/bass_guitar_specialists/Xotic_XJ5_Sonic_Blue.html"]http://www.bassdirect.co.uk/bass_guitar_sp...Sonic_Blue.html[/url]

[Doddy]

I wouldn't get rid of the pre Ernie Ball.....it's a lovely bass.

[stingrayPete1977]

I know Paul if it wasn't it would be gone!

P.s I got called a score snob at the pub after practice last week

[Lfalex v1.1]

No. Don't sell the Pre-EB.
If, as you say, the SR5 all but replaces the 3EQ 'Ray, then lose that.
I certianly wouldn't buy a Classic 'Ray 5 with the funds. Variety is the spice of bass!
Of the Bass Direct stock you posted, only the Clover floats my boat (and not because of the paint job!)
I'd sell the 'Ray 4 and sit on the funds. Save up and play lots of interesting stuff. Scan the ads in For Sale, and go try some of those, too.
You know what you like and what you don't. I certainly do by now! Pick a good 'un, and grab it! But try some weird stuff you wouldn't usually look twice at along the way, you might be surprised...

[Blademan_98]

Keep it

You will just miss it when it's gone!

[Roland Rock]

If the Pre EB Ray is the perfect 4 stringer, I don't get why you'd rather keep the Jazz. If the Jabba plays/sounds as good as it looks, I'd ditch the Jazz and the 2002 Ray4 and get that.


edit: Plus, you can't be called StingrayPete and not have a Pre EB!

Edited August 10, 2011 by Roland Rock

[Doddy]

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' post='1335698' date='Aug 10 2011, 09:02 PM']P.s I got called a score snob at the pub after practice last week [/quote]

Haha

[Prime_BASS]

Do the songs need a G-string?

If not string the Pre-EB BEAD....

[stingrayPete1977]

[quote name='Roland Rock' post='1335739' date='Aug 10 2011, 09:34 PM']If the Pre EB Ray is the perfect 4 stringer, I don't get why you'd rather keep the Jazz. If the Jabba plays/sounds as good as it looks, I'd ditch the Jazz and the 2002 Ray4 and get that.


edit: Plus, you can't be called StingrayPete and not have a Pre EB![/quote]
The Jazz is a Bitsa that cost me about £450 to build so what's it worth £300 max maybe probably worth more it bits and it's really awesome yet can get knocked about at jam nights and stuff without fuss.

[stingrayPete1977]

[quote name='Prime_BASS' post='1335761' date='Aug 10 2011, 09:48 PM']Do the songs need a G-string?

If not string the Pre-EB BEAD....[/quote]
The Dave Barron stuff has riffs from the low B up to the B on the G string in one song and some other stuff using the whole fretboard so that's not an option, In my previous funky blues band I used the pre EB mainly and the jazz tuned as a B bass, Then the indie band was the Teal EBMM mainly with the jazz tuned as normal for the older tunes ,James,stone roses etc. See that was simple and all three got regular use

[stingrayPete1977]

[quote name='Lfalex v1.1' post='1335701' date='Aug 10 2011, 09:02 PM']No. Don't sell the Pre-EB.
If, as you say, the SR5 all but replaces the 3EQ 'Ray, then lose that.
I certianly wouldn't buy a Classic 'Ray 5 with the funds. Variety is the spice of bass!
Of the Bass Direct stock you posted, only the Clover floats my boat (and not because of the paint job!)
I'd sell the 'Ray 4 and sit on the funds. Save up and play lots of interesting stuff. Scan the ads in For Sale, and go try some of those, too.
You know what you like and what you don't. I certainly do by now! Pick a good 'un, and grab it! But try some weird stuff you wouldn't usually look twice at along the way, you might be surprised...[/quote]
Just been on the phone to EBS freak and this appears to be the best bet so as much as I love that bass and it's ability to get in any mix it could be up for sale/trade as the Ray5 really is the same but with an extra string.

[chris_b]

If you can't bring yourself to sell the SR4, put it under the bed and get on with playing the 5er's. By the time you want to sell it it'll be worth a lot more.

[JTUK]

This is natural. I don't have 4's anymore and did indeed sell my fab early 80's MM. The only thing about that is that it would be worth more money now and it was a great player..but if they don't have a use you are a collector and I have no interest in that.

Don't stress it...either you can cover a gig or you can't with the besses you have or you can't. If you can, take your time looking out for that special bass.

Both my J5's are far better basses than the 77 Jazz and even the MM though so you'll find one soon.

[Musicman20]

Im probably one of those weird people who find space for both. Why? Because they definitely feel and sound different, even same models, same electrics, etc (taking the wood variety out of it).

My 5s sound great, and soon ill be gigging them, but I class the 5 as a different instrument. If I ever get back into originals, and its more rock/punk based, it will be a 4 string, because it feels and sounds how I want it to.

The 5er's are more for my own personal enjoyment at the moment, but are great for pop, funk, soul, etc, where you want that subtle but nice low notes.

Keep them. Believe me, you might want them back one day.

I tend to see it how Ed Friedland does....why limit to one? The 5 does more than the 4, agreed, but the 4 SOUNDS and FEELS different. I dont know why, but it does, no matter which brand. Even things like tension feel different once you have a low B.

If you do sell one, Id personally add a 2EQ 5er Ray, like the Classic 5. Failing that, try something else by Musicman if you want to stick with them.

[dmccombe7]

If its difficult to replace don't sell it.

Learned that through experience

Dave

[EdwardHimself]

I personally enjoy playing a 4 string now and again along with the 5 which is my main bass. I think really unless you desperately need the money there is not much point in getting rid of that nice old pre EB stingray.

[obi 2 kenobi]

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' post='1335640' date='Aug 10 2011, 08:29 PM']As some of you know I [i]love[/i] my pre EB Ray and my bought new by me 2002 Ray4 but since getting the 5'er they are not getting as much use. I play live gigs for a local singer songwriter called Dave Barron who has written and recorded all the parts on an OLP Tony Levin MM5 so last year I bought my first 5 to be able to play the shows (cant be done downtuned beleive me and I have already made the switch so its not a "whats a 5'er for" thread).
I quit two long term covers bands at the same time around christmas where I could use 4 or 5 strings for the whole set and rotate my gear so the only gigs I had to do on the 5 was the Dave Barron Band stuff so the 5 is the main bass at the moment. I have a new covers band thats only just getting the songs together and a few rehersals here and there but nothing serious, My plan is/was to use only the 4 stringers for those rehersals so I can gig my 4's again but part of me deep down is saying thats stupid and just being sentimental for the sake of it, just use the 5 for everything. I wont sell my 4's without replacing them with a suitable 5 leaving me with two 5's to choose from as the money will just get swallowed by general house bills etc. The Jazz 4 will stay as its worth more to me and everyone should have a good Jazz IMO, That leaves me with the two Ray4's to sell/trade to a combined value I guess around £2300-2400 which should be a nice bass! The thing is I love my pre EB its the best 4 string bass I have ever played bar none, the chances of finding another in that condition are very slim and only going to cost me more to replace in future, Likewise the 2002 was my main bass for nearly 10 years and almost all my original band stuff was recorded on it.





Keep 'em both. Who knows, maybe in 6 months or whenever you're in a different band and only need a 4


EBS freak accused me of gassing like you lot but Im not sure it is, If the pre EB had another string It would be the perfect bass which suggests a Classic Ray5 purchase is in order? I dont want a new bass for the sake of it, I want the exact same ones I have now but all with 5 strings! The Ray4 is covered by my Ray5 as its maple and 3 EQ so logical choice would be a nice Jazz 5 of some sort?


Confused....................................[/quote]

[CHRISDABASS]

Ive been through this situation before!!

i had some beautiful Sadowsky 4 strings (3 at the same time) i changed bands and needed to move to 5 string and couldnt use the 4's in my band anymore!! it took some guts to sell them! especially the NYC but once i got my 5 string sadowsky ive never looked back, it does everything i could ever need it to do and more!


if you think about it you only really need one versatile 5 to cover most situations its nice to really get to know that one bass really well and play the hell out of it!! haha

[stingrayPete1977]

I do enjoy playing 4's and I would still have the Jazz anyway but I think as most people have said keep the pre EB even if it's not used much, There really is only a few to my knowledge in the same condition or better out there and all original too.

I'm thinking maybe trade the 2002 for something maybe a G&L L2500k and just keep swapping that position bass about as the gassing bass. Keep the 5 as my work horse and the pre EB for a treat or recording etc.

[stingrayPete1977]

[quote name='CHRISDABASS' post='1336342' date='Aug 11 2011, 12:48 PM']Ive been through this situation before!!

i had some beautiful Sadowsky 4 strings (3 at the same time) i changed bands and needed to move to 5 string and couldnt use the 4's in my band anymore!! it took some guts to sell them! especially the NYC but once i got my 5 string sadowsky ive never looked back, it does everything i could ever need it to do and more!


if you think about it you only really need one versatile 5 to cover most situations its nice to really get to know that one bass really well and play the hell out of it!! haha[/quote]
In truth the whole situation is a greedy one as there is no real reason why I can't play every gig in the forseeable future on the 5 I already have, so everything else could be sold but I'm not desperate for cash and the money would just get spent on something boring for the house.

Thanks for the thoughts folks I think the decision to trade just the 2002 4 is on the cards

[janmaat]

Well sometimes it's nice to have a light weight 4 at hand, more for the weight though, I love my 4 yammy cause it's a super easy bring-along play-along, not bothered much about it, can swap with other players easily on certain type jam sessions, light on m back and light when I play a long gig, and sounds great.

[dmccombe7]

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' post='1336745' date='Aug 11 2011, 05:22 PM']I do enjoy playing 4's and I would still have the Jazz anyway but I think as most people have said keep the pre EB even if it's not used much, There really is only a few to my knowledge in the same condition or better out there and all original too.

I'm thinking maybe trade the 2002 for something maybe a G&L L2500k and just keep swapping that position bass about as the gassing bass. Keep the 5 as my work horse and the pre EB for a treat or recording etc.[/quote]



Sounds like a plan to me

Cheers
Dave

[stingrayPete1977]

I took the pre EB to practice last night and it was as expected awesome, It's going no where Looks like that covers band are going to be busier than I thought too which means I can use the fours to good use after all.

[martthebass]

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' post='1336745' date='Aug 11 2011, 05:22 PM']I do enjoy playing 4's and I would still have the Jazz anyway but I think as most people have said keep the pre EB even if it's not used much, There really is only a few to my knowledge in the same condition or better out there and all original too.

I'm thinking maybe trade the 2002 for something maybe a G&L L2500k and just keep swapping that position bass about as the gassing bass. Keep the 5 as my work horse and the pre EB for a treat or recording etc.[/quote]

The neck profile on the L2500 ain't a patch on the SR5 Pete......