christhammer666 Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 hi guys in know this subject how been done on here but i think this is adifferent slant i recently bought a new ibanez sr300 the i have adjusted the action saddles only and is now perfect in standard tuning.the problem is when i tune down to c or b i get fret buzz n the first few and last few frets.obvuosly i dont want to adjust the saddles everytime i tune down or the truss rod please help thanks in advance jamie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbyrne Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Being that the strings are looser, it's fairly obvious that the amplitude of the vibrating string will be greater, so I don't see anyway of avoiding buzz & rattle when tuning down. If you want to play at those pitches you would need to use heavier strings which need greater tension even at those tunings and won't rattle. If you are tuned to BEAD you'll need a 125 or 130 for the B and the others commensurate with that. When I had this kind of need, I had 2 basses with me, one in BEAD & the other in EADG. That covered everything. G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blademan_98 Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 [quote name='geoffbyrne' post='1336176' date='Aug 11 2011, 10:11 AM']Being that the strings are looser, it's fairly obvious that the amplitude of the vibrating string will be greater, so I don't see anyway of avoiding buzz & rattle when tuning down. If you want to play at those pitches you would need to use heavier strings which need greater tension even at those tunings and won't rattle. If you are tuned to BEAD you'll need a 125 or 130 for the B and the others commensurate with that. When I had this kind of need, I had 2 basses with me, one in BEAD & the other in EADG. That covered everything. G.[/quote] This ^ Get a dedicated bass and string it accordingly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brensabre79 Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Or get a 5 string and just have one bass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Foxen Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Make your guitarist tune up. If you don't have a stupid detuned guitarist, you don't need to detune. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyjr1515 Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 The compromise is putting heavier strings on as above and set the saddles for your lower tunings and put up with the higher action heights at your 'normal' tuning. It is a comprise, though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoonBassAlpha Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 just tune the E down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christhammer666 Posted August 11, 2011 Author Share Posted August 11, 2011 [quote name='Mr. Foxen' post='1336319' date='Aug 11 2011, 12:27 PM']Make your guitarist tune up. If you don't have a stupid detuned guitarist, you don't need to detune.[/quote] this times 1241253445734634737343457 lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christhammer666 Posted August 11, 2011 Author Share Posted August 11, 2011 thanks for the realies guys was hoping to not have to have 2 basses got a sort of rush type project which is in standard tuning and a death metal project on the horizon which is tuned to be might have to give my flexible friend a hamerring .ahem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry norton Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 Do you need to transpose the whole bass down? You will find the neck stays straighter if you just tune down your E string and learn to play it with the other 3 in A, D & G. You could then fit a Hipshot Bass extender key so you won't even have to p#ss around with a tuner whenever you needed the lower notes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bottle Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 [quote name='henry norton' post='1336460' date='Aug 11 2011, 02:20 PM']Do you need to transpose the whole bass down? You will find the neck stays straighter if you just tune down your E string and learn to play it with the other 3 in A, D & G. You could then fit a Hipshot Bass extender key so you won't even have to p#ss around with a tuner whenever you needed the lower notes.[/quote] Good points, although I would find that to be a bit of a faff - IMO much easier to either have a dedicated bass for the metal project strung for BEAD (or whatever esoteric tuning is used), or use a fiver for both. Depends on the bass, but I would expect that any decent 4-banger could be restrung with heavier-gauge strings without too much hassle (have done it myself with my Squier PJ). Again this is IMO and IME, but I find it easier to keep the bass tuned in fourths so you don't lose the ability to use the same fingerings/shapes as you would previously be used to. HTH, Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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