end to live music restrictions in pubs?

[Mr H]

[url="http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/sep/07/live-music-pubs-licence-bands"]http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/sep/0...s-licence-bands[/url]

...proposals for deregulation and an end to local council entertainment licences.

[xgsjx]

That's good news! Good ole Fergal.

[DirkThrust]

[quote name='xgsjx' post='1365734' date='Sep 7 2011, 08:41 PM']That's good news! Good ole Fergal. [/quote]

What's it got to do with Fergal? Should be "Good ole John".

Edited September 7, 2011 by DirkThrust

[xgsjx]

Sorry, you're right. Well Sharkey, shame on you for trying to steal someone else's limelight. You 80s throwback!!!

[clarkpegasus4001]

The sooner the better.

[TimR]

It won't happen. It will result in lots of calls to the Environmental Health about noise levels and there'll be another proposal.

I think it's the expense and the complexity of the licensing that's the problem, not the actual licensing. Although the current system was supposed to make it less complex.

[icastle]

Got to say that, around here, either the majority of the local pubs have managed to succesfully navigate the inevitable 80 page document detailing everything from venue size to sock colour... or they've just ignored the rules.

[Bilbo]

Never seen what the purpose of the legislation was. Let's be honest, the factors that determine where live music is played will be the size of the room the size of the potential audience and the cost of the band. Most of the venues I play coudln't take more than a 4 piece without there being no room for an audience.

[xgsjx]

[quote name='Bilbo' post='1366496' date='Sep 8 2011, 03:10 PM']Never seen what the purpose of the legislation was. Let's be honest, the factors that determine where live music is played will be the size of the room the size of the potential audience and the cost of the band. Most of the venues I play coudln't take more than a 4 piece without there being no room for an audience.[/quote]
is that your way of saying you have an audience of 1?

[Bilbo]

[quote name='xgsjx' post='1366503' date='Sep 8 2011, 03:15 PM']is that your way of saying you have an audience of 1? [/quote]

No but they would rarely fill a coach

[hillbilly deluxe]

[quote name='Bilbo' post='1366510' date='Sep 8 2011, 03:21 PM']No but they would rarely fill a couch [/quote]
Fixed.

[JTUK]

I think there is a case for regulation and for it to be simplified....we hardly need a free-for-all though.
And I agree, it is unlikely, IMO, ...you only have to see what hoops you have to dance through for outdoor licenses.. due to H&S etc...so unless they bin that, I can't see them deregulating to any degree.

[xgsjx]

I've a cheek to talk about audience sizes, last gig I did in Perth we had an audience of 1 for the first 5 or so songs! Never went back to that venue & never even took payment from the bar (I felt bad as I think they was relying on us bringing an audience, which we don't have in Perth yet).

[icastle]

[quote name='Bilbo' post='1366496' date='Sep 8 2011, 03:10 PM']Never seen what the purpose of the legislation was. Let's be honest, the factors that determine where live music is played will be the size of the room the size of the potential audience and the cost of the band. Most of the venues I play coudln't take more than a 4 piece without there being no room for an audience.[/quote]

The more cynical mind would perhaps think that the biggest reason for bringing this legislation out in the first place were based on £'s...

[url="http://www.barrowbc.gov.uk/Docs/licensingfees20090926.doc"]http://www.barrowbc.gov.uk/Docs/licensingfees20090926.doc[/url]

[Beedster]

[quote name='xgsjx' post='1366552' date='Sep 8 2011, 03:57 PM']I've a cheek to talk about audience sizes, last gig I did in Perth we had an audience of 1 for the first 5 or so songs! Never went back to that venue & never even took payment from the bar (I felt bad as I think they was relying on us bringing an audience, which we don't have in Perth yet).[/quote]

We're a four piece and have outnumbered our paying guests more than once

[clarkpegasus4001]

[quote name='icastle' post='1366578' date='Sep 8 2011, 04:07 PM']The more cynical mind would perhaps think that the biggest reason for bringing this legislation out in the first place were based on £'s...

[url="http://www.barrowbc.gov.uk/Docs/licensingfees20090926.doc"]http://www.barrowbc.gov.uk/Docs/licensingfees20090926.doc[/url][/quote]

I must be one of those cynical people then.... isn't always about ££££££'s ?

Edited September 8, 2011 by clarkpegasus4001

[icastle]

[quote name='clarkpegasus4001' post='1366991' date='Sep 8 2011, 09:06 PM']I must be one of those cynical people then.... isn't always about ££££££'s ?[/quote]

Cynicism just adds a much needed sense of reality to a world inhabited by wearers of rose tinted glasses...

[Blademan_98]

They shut one of our local pubs because they put bands on without a licence

A good venue to play as it had a proper stage.

Re-opened with new management and no music