Grand Wazoo Posted October 8, 2011 Posted October 8, 2011 We don't know for sure if Gareth got those 2 Fenders he said he did, a new P and a new J but we never saw picture proof. Quote
merello Posted October 9, 2011 Posted October 9, 2011 I'm lost here. You pay £1500 for a bass and they don't deliver what was ordered. No brainer, full refund and start the thrill of the chase all over again. Seeing as you have a few basses already I'd go for the £1500 all inclusive holiday. As an analogy, if your GF was in A&E yesterday and come out with bits loose and falling off, you'd take her back there to get fixed. (The analogy dies when you ask for a full refund though!) Quote
dave_bass5 Posted October 9, 2011 Posted October 9, 2011 [quote name='merello' timestamp='1318147323' post='1398423'] I'm lost here. You pay £1500 for a bass and they don't deliver what was ordered. [/quote] No, he got exaclty the one he ordered, its just that the quality isnt up to scratch. Quote
merello Posted October 9, 2011 Posted October 9, 2011 [quote name='dave_bass5' timestamp='1318153398' post='1398502'] No, he got exaclty the one he ordered, its just that the quality isnt up to scratch. [/quote] Which means.....? He ordered a fully functional bass of high quality. Did he get it? Quote
dave_bass5 Posted October 9, 2011 Posted October 9, 2011 [quote name='merello' timestamp='1318168969' post='1398720'] Which means.....? He ordered a fully functional bass of high quality. Did he get it? [/quote] Your twisting my words and ill not get drawn in to it. Think what you like. Quote
Hutton Posted October 9, 2011 Posted October 9, 2011 I think we all know exactly what Dave meant. Perhaps it's time to let this thread die a death and then Gareth can start a new one to let us know the outcome of the sorry tale. Quote
Musicman20 Posted October 9, 2011 Author Posted October 9, 2011 5 days and still no outcome. Getting a bit frustrated now. Admittedly it's the weekend, but I need a conclusion tomorrow. Quote
dave_bass5 Posted October 9, 2011 Posted October 9, 2011 Just as well it's not a bank holiday. Has anyone given any indication of whats going to happen Gareth? Quote
Musicman20 Posted October 9, 2011 Author Posted October 9, 2011 Not really. Should be picked up tomorrow though (best be!) but no idea what's going to happen. I'm willing to be flexible, but now I'm losing my patience. If nothing gets agreed tomorrow, I'll ask for the refund. Quote
AttitudeCastle Posted October 9, 2011 Posted October 9, 2011 [quote name='eude' timestamp='1317981261' post='1396846'] I think it's awful that folks should be too scared to post anything on that Ernie's Balls forum slightly negative even with legitimate reason for fear of the repercussions from a pack of feral fanboys or how "the Führer" might react. Not a healthy way to do business, smacks a bit of Nazi Germany if you ask me... [/quote] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law Quote
Musicman20 Posted October 10, 2011 Author Posted October 10, 2011 Had enough now. Going to ask for full refund and leave it at tha. They have nothing in that's similar spec, just lower spec. Don't feel like accepting something I could have had 7 months ago so putting an end to this now. Quote
Grand Wazoo Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 [quote name='Musicman20' timestamp='1318206112' post='1399270'] Had enough now. Going to ask for full refund and leave it at tha. They have nothing in that's similar spec, just lower spec. Don't feel like accepting something I could have had 7 months ago so putting an end to this now. [/quote] So.... would you be ordering another one from a.) Darren at Bass Merchant and b.) Ernie Ball MM inc. ? Quote
eude Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 [quote name='Musicman20' timestamp='1318206112' post='1399270'] Had enough now. Going to ask for full refund and leave it at tha. They have nothing in that's similar spec, just lower spec. Don't feel like accepting something I could have had 7 months ago so putting an end to this now. [/quote] Sounds like the best plan mate, rotten it's turned out like this, but at least you get your money back and somebody along the line loses a sale for Musicman, fingers crossed they can find the weak link. Oh, and I wouldn't "ask" for a refund, I'd insist dude, think you're being too nice for yer own good [quote name='Grand Wazoo' timestamp='1318228210' post='1399303'] So.... would you be ordering another one from a.) Darren at Bass Merchant and b.) Ernie Ball MM inc. ? [/quote] Clearly you're still gonna be a fan of MM basses Gareth, so is there another way of buying one, straight from the source? Maybe a trip out to the states with a wee souvenir for the way back?... Eude Quote
BigRedX Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 I'd be wanting interest on any money paid in advance too. Just out of interest how much did you have to pay up front and how much on delivery for this bass? Quote
dave_bass5 Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 [quote name='Musicman20' timestamp='1318206112' post='1399270'] Had enough now. Going to ask for full refund and leave it at tha. They have nothing in that's similar spec, just lower spec. Don't feel like accepting something I could have had 7 months ago so putting an end to this now. [/quote] I think its for the best. There is no telling what a replacement would look like, nor how long you would have to wait for it. Best get this all sorted now so you can put this behind you. Quote
Linus27 Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 Yep, agree with Dave and the others. Get money back and move on. Quote
Musicman20 Posted October 10, 2011 Author Posted October 10, 2011 Haha, originally this was paid for in the middle of last year...when I sold a Ray on here. I paid in full for a single H non-matching, but decided as I had a little extra cash id go for a MHS and extra H...(which was paid for in March 2011). So, all in all Ive been waiting over a year... Quote
Musicman20 Posted October 10, 2011 Author Posted October 10, 2011 BTW - to make things even more certain about the build issue, I packed it again last night for pickup, and noticed the nut wasnt cut correctly. The E was VERY high off the board, even though the saddle was almost maxed to the bottom and the neck is set correctly. Crazy. Quote
farmer61 Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 [quote name='Shockwave' timestamp='1317912319' post='1396144'] I would seriously take this to the Ernie Ball forums... [/quote] Just take a tin hat with you.....! Quote
dave_bass5 Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 (edited) I think it might be a good idea to take some pics before its sent off. Just in case things get heavy. Edited October 10, 2011 by dave_bass5 Quote
Musicman20 Posted October 10, 2011 Author Posted October 10, 2011 Ive got pics of the neck pocket...the nut, well that was obvious as soon as I looked properly. Thing is, I STILL LIKE THESE BASSES! In fact, they are so part of 'my sound' (it tends to be preference of Ray, then P then J) I couldn't be without them. So, no matter what happens, I will keep buying their gear. A) Because the 4 I have are so perfect and because I know deep down this is a bit of an odd scenario with the old body/new neck. I do appreciate all the feedback. I did look into custom basses a while back, but I really don't see anything (as yet) that grabs me. Eg, they aren't 'right' visually, and as much as they could basically copy a Ray, it wouldn't be a Ray....if you get me. Quote
charic Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 Just get a dingwall super j I'll buy it off ya for £100 when you don't like it Quote
dlloyd Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 [quote name='eude' timestamp='1317982259' post='1396858'] [u][quote][/u]dave_bass5, on 07 October 2011 - 11:04 AM, said: I think its more a case of not worth it as the posts will be deleted and the poster banned. Just a waste of time. Ive seen someone get told off by a mod just for talking about another manufactures strings and comparing them to EB's.[/quote] Regardless of Gareth's recent problems, that kind of crap is more enough to put me off Musicman as a brand, the company appears to be run by complete elitist arseholes. [/quote] The rule regarding other other manufacturer's products was brought in for fairly sensible reasons. When the EB forum was still in its early days, there used to be reasoned debate about replacement pickups, preamps, necks, etc. and there were no problems. The problem, as I see it, came when the forum grew. House forums often attract an obsessive clique of fans, and the EBMM forum was no exception. People would come on the forums and ask about replacement pickups and would be piled on by a bunch of fanboys who would tell them why they were wrong to want to adulterate a Stingray... and it would descend from there. Blocking discussion of other manufacturers' products has, I would imagine, prevented a fair bit of nastiness on the EBMM forums. And lets face it, there are plenty of other places where discussion of replacement parts is possible. Quote
dave_bass5 Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 [quote name='dlloyd' timestamp='1318245936' post='1399557'] Blocking discussion of other manufacturers' products has, I would imagine, prevented a fair bit of nastiness on the EBMM forums. And lets face it, there are plenty of other places where discussion of replacement parts is possible. [/quote] Blocking owners posting about issues is not really on IMO. The best place to ask for help with a certain product should surely be the manufacturers own forums. Quote
eude Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 [quote name='dlloyd' timestamp='1318245936' post='1399557'] The rule regarding other other manufacturer's products was brought in for fairly sensible reasons. When the EB forum was still in its early days, there used to be reasoned debate about replacement pickups, preamps, necks, etc. and there were no problems. The problem, as I see it, came when the forum grew. House forums often attract an obsessive clique of fans, and the EBMM forum was no exception. People would come on the forums and ask about replacement pickups and would be piled on by a bunch of fanboys who would tell them why they were wrong to want to adulterate a Stingray... and it would descend from there. Blocking discussion of other manufacturers' products has, I would imagine, prevented a fair bit of nastiness on the EBMM forums. And lets face it, there are plenty of other places where discussion of replacement parts is possible. [/quote] I'm not concerned with folks being picky about unrelated products, it's an Ernie's Balls Forum after all, I think it's awful that someone can't share a negative experience with a product and have it discussed rationally without being attacked... Eude Quote
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