edstraker123 Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 (edited) Anybody know what the issue is with posting these on Ebay. I appreciate Rickenbacker trying to protect their design but surely their argument is with Indie as a manufacturer rather than me as an individual who bought the guitar in good faith from an ebay listing as it happened ! I've had to resort to listing it as a mystery bass but don't know how long it will last until they pull it. [attachment=90434:indie.jpg] Edited September 29, 2011 by edstraker123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 [quote name='edstraker123' timestamp='1317316771' post='1389460'] Anybody know what the issue is with posting these on Ebay. I appreciate Rickenbacker trying to protect their design but surely their argument is with Indie as a manufacturer rather than me as an individual who bought the guitar in good faith from an ebay listing as it happened ! I've had to resort to listing it as a mystery bass but don't know how long it will last until they pull it. [attachment=90434:indie.jpg] [/quote] The Rickenfaker thread over in the ebay links forums has loads of similar tales from BCers and reports of pulled listings, most recently from Ash. You're not breaking any UK laws, but Ebay is an American company and react to any violations of trademarks by pulling the auction. Or they can't be arsed to look into the legalities of the matter and pull it whenever they receive a Vero notification. If you keep listing it, thinking up more ways to avoid it getting pulled, you might be lucky enough to receive a personal email from Jon Hall accusing you of dishonesty and deviousness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Alsatian Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 As long as you don't mention 'Rickenbacker' or '4001/4003' etc in the auction text, you should be okay. Sell it as an Indie IRK, but mention certain bassplayers who've used a Rickenbacker - Lemmy, Paul McCartney, Bruce Foxton, Chris Squire etc. Avoid using the term 'copy' - use 'styled after a famous bass used by...'. With a picture in the gallery (the thumbnail), when people search for basses, they'll see the shape and look at the auction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 [quote name='Green Alsatian' timestamp='1317318920' post='1389498'] As long as you don't mention 'Rickenbacker' or '4001/4003' etc in the auction text, you should be okay. Sell it as an Indie IRK, but mention certain bassplayers who've used a Rickenbacker - Lemmy, Paul McCartney, Bruce Foxton, Chris Squire etc. Avoid using the term 'copy' - use 'styled after a famous bass used by...'. With a picture in the gallery (the thumbnail), when people search for basses, they'll see the shape and look at the auction. [/quote] You'd be surprised. http://basschat.co.uk/topic/270-rickenfakers/page__view__findpost__p__1226763 It's a complete lottery whether an Rickenfaker auction will run to completion - some do and others don't, apparently regardless of the use of the 'R' word (though it's got to be said, your chances are better if you don't). Put your phone number or email in the text and encourage people to contact you, or at least keep it for future reference. That way if it gets pulled they'll know how to contact you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Alsatian Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Ah - I thought it was the mere mention of the 'R' word or any associated model numbers could get an auction pulled. I have noticed a few sellers putting their contact details in the auction, so presumably they're in the 'know' or have had their previous attempts at listing pulled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edstraker123 Posted September 29, 2011 Author Share Posted September 29, 2011 Cheers for the heads up Musky. I've got other listings on ebay at the moment which are more importatnt so have pulled this bass in case they suspended my selling activity ( despite no mention of Rickenbacker or even the guitar model !) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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