henry norton Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 To anyone who owns a bass that has the option of bridge mounting or through stringing. Has anyone tried a back to back test, the same gauge and type of string, tuned to the same pitch, one anchored on the bridge and one anchored string thru? I'd do it myself but none of my basses have this option. There's always been allot of talk about it but I've never seen much in the way of hard evidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Wazoo Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 Recently experienced with that one actually, on my new Fender American Standard P bass. Make no mistake, there is definately a difference between the two, when you go strings through it sounds deeper and less snappier, and when top loaded you get a brighter sound. For me the best result was a mix of both, i.e. E and A strings through and D & G top loaded, this meant that the higher strings had a poppier sound when top loaded and the thicker ones were deeper when strung through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry norton Posted October 7, 2011 Author Share Posted October 7, 2011 Thanks GW. Did you actually try identical strings at the same time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Wazoo Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 [quote name='henry norton' timestamp='1317990546' post='1397031'] Thanks GW. Did you actually try identical strings at the same time? [/quote] Well I made that test with a brand new set of strings, took them on and off until I was satisfied with the final result. I also like that new high mass bridge on those american standard basses that have slotted saddles as I have managed to get the larger spacing possible while retaining the strings within the width of the neck, I reckon I am very close to a 19.3 spacing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRBboy Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 Don't currently any basses that have both options but have in the past. Like GW, I found that top loaded had better attack and I preferred the response of the string. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffbyrne Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 I had Cirrus BXP that did both & I found it didn't make one iota of difference. G. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 I've never been able to tell any difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry norton Posted October 7, 2011 Author Share Posted October 7, 2011 Well two against two so far I've got a couple of builds in the pipeline, at least one of which will have both options so maybe I'll get my DI box out and do a back to back test once I'm finished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 I don't necessarily deny there could be a noticeable difference (although I'm unconvinced) but I think, for example, playing by the bridge or playing by the neck would make a lot more difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doddy Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 Personally,I don't think it matters. I certainly can't tell the difference,and once the sound has passed through everything else I think what difference it might make is pretty insignificant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ou7shined Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 One of my personal builds has both options. If there is a difference, it's very, very slight. Therefore I chose to stick with top loading because it makes string choice a hell of a lot easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubinga5 Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 marketing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawrenceH Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 Surely if there is a difference at all, in any one case it's going to be dependent on the type of bridge - high mass or not, how much it changes the break angle on the string. I guess it could change the compliance a bit. The bridge saddles forming the pivot point are still anchored in the bridge either way though. Be very interested in the results if you do give it a go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4 Strings Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 I have an American Deluxe Jazz with the option, but I get the feeling that by the time I've unwound and reinstalled the strings I will have forgotten the sound to make a close A-B comparison. However, if there is a difference would it not be to do with anchoring the string directly to the body rather than through the bent bit of tin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 [quote name='4 Strings' timestamp='1319740690' post='1418073'] I have an American Deluxe Jazz with the option, but I get the feeling that by the time I've unwound and reinstalled the strings I will have forgotten the sound to make a close A-B comparison. However, if there is a difference would it not be to do with anchoring the string directly to the body rather than through the bent bit of tin? [/quote] Record it before and after. I've never heard a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiOgon Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 (edited) I've tried GHS Flats both ways on my Frank Bello, which comes as standard fitted with BadAssIII & through body option. Honestly I couldn't tell any difference but that's via my 60 year old ears, nothing sophisticated about them ;-) Thinking about it, I've had Fender 9050 Flats both ways on my '51 P, with Hipshot bridge & not been able to tell any difference. Edited October 27, 2011 by KiOgon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 +1 for not noticing a difference, either. But then I can't tell the difference between butter and I Can't Believe It's Not Butter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubinga5 Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 i find it hard to fathem....one.. who has the time to wonder the difference.. or two.. who can tell the difference.... like i said .... marketing.. and im a bass geek... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 For some reason I`ve always gone for the sring-thru option, until I got my `77 Precision, which doesn`t have this. And looking at things logically, all my fave artists/recordings were with top-loaded Precisions anyway, so I may as well be in the same gang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mart Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 [url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/21840-thru-body-stringing-vs-bridge-only/page__view__findpost__p__1140120"]http://basschat.co.u...ost__p__1140120[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moos3h Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 I couldn't vouch for the difference in tone between string through and top load, but I can vouch for the difference between a normal and high mass bridge on a VERY cheapo bass. I have a Westfield which had a BBoT style bridge, replaced with a high mass copy of the Schaller sorta job and the difference is noticeable to both sustain and slightly noticeable 'depth' to the tone, also seems to have had a positive effect in reducing string tension - it's a much nicer bass to play as a result and action etc. is roughly the same as it was before (+/- 1mm) So I guess if you have a nice bass with a serviceable bridge - it doesn't matter. Bit if we're talking a cheapo bass, there could be an improvement to be made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vibrating G String Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 I think the real tone difference is how deep the bridge screws go. Any more than 3/4 of an inch and you lose the tone of the wood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 I've had both...but only bought either bass as it sounded good to me... If the bass didn't sound good, that was that...so I don't think it matters beyond that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_b Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 [size=4][color=#222222][font=Arial]With some rigs and on some stages a Gramma pad works and on some it doesn't. A Fat Finger and a high mass bridge can benefit a bass that needs it and some basses will sound or feel different with 35"scale or through body stringing. Some players won't notice and will think it does nothing, but for the guys for whom it works and who can spot the difference it's cool. [/font][/color][/size][color=#222222][font=Arial][size=1][/size][/font][/color] [size=4][color=#222222][font=Arial] [/font][/color][/size][color=#222222][font=Arial][size=1][/size][/font][/color] [size=4][color=#222222][font=Arial]I use through body stringing cos I can. It won't make you sound worse and it might sound, or more likely feel, better, so why not?[/font][/color][/size][color=#222222][font=Arial][size=1][/size][/font][/color] [size=4][font=Arial] [/font][/size][font=Arial][size=2][/size][/font] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismuzz Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 The strings definately feel tighter when strung through the body. didnt have the problem of practically pulling the bridge saddles off the bass when digging in either. Might have made the sound slightly deeper too but I didn't record it so take that with a pinch of salt! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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