Dark Stars

[EssentialTension]

Any of you engineers built some Dark Stars yet? If so I'll take two.

[Rockaction5]

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That luthier is one of the guys who was building using Dark Stars and so I guess he can't any longer get them from Fred Hammon so ....
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Hello from France, I am this guy and I can't get these pu's anymore... so. I did them for my basses first , improving, if possible, their mounting but I've keep all the essential part of the "darkstar" same magnets, bobine, laminated core and pole piece sizes. and it works! (some new pictures on the site)
have a nice day.
DR

[EssentialTension]

[quote name='Rockaction5' timestamp='1338553120' post='1676225']
Hello from France, I am this guy and I can't get these pu's anymore... so. I did them for my basses first , improving, if possible, their mounting but I've keep all the essential part of the "darkstar" same magnets, bobine, laminated core and pole piece sizes. and it works! (some new pictures on the site)
have a nice day.
DR
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Very good. Do you have a link for the site? I couldn't find it.

[Rockaction5]

just type "daguet" and guitars on gogle...

[EssentialTension]

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just type "daguet" and guitars on gogle...
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So are all the basses now your own version of the Dark Star pick up?

[Rockaction5]

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So are all the basses now your own version of the Dark Star pick up?
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yes, plus my own ceramic lipstick

[EssentialTension]

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yes, plus my own ceramic lipstick
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Do you have any sound files for your Dark Star clones?

Are you selling pickups?

[Rockaction5]

very soon now, just the time to find a day which will be longer than 24 hours... seriously, very soon. I will sale two third of the serie I am making (50 sets)

[Rockaction5]

the sound files are actually on the site, I did several tracks with various basses recorded the same way at same level on the same amp in order to compare. have a nice day.

Edited June 30, 2012 by Rockaction5

[Rockaction5]

hello ,
by french curiosity, what does mean "rumours afoot" is it that kind of "rumours"? http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f8/club-dark-star-731040/index25.html
Have a good night all.

[EssentialTension]

[quote name='Rockaction5' timestamp='1344627862' post='1767421']
hello ,
by french curiosity, what does mean "rumours afoot" is it that kind of "rumours"? [url="http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f8/club-dark-star-731040/index25.html"]http://www.talkbass....40/index25.html[/url]
Have a good night all.
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Looks very nice and a good review.

[ezbass]

[quote name='Rockaction5' timestamp='1344627862' post='1767421']
hello ,
by french curiosity, what does mean "rumours afoot" is it that kind of "rumours"?
[/quote]It means nothing more than there are rumours around saying that something might be about to happen. Pretty much anything can be afoot http://www.thefreedictionary.com/afoot

[Rockaction5]

some news from the other side of the channel, Jaguar type "DR" with DR re-designed bisonic type pickups. Elected "bass of the year 2012" in the french magazine "guitariste and basse magazine"
plus some pictures of these pickups parts :sorry for the pictures sizes...

[BigRedX]

Those look great. No need to be sorry about the picture sizes, I'd rather have a good sized, clear photo that takes a couple of seconds more to load than some crappy little thumbnail sized image that shows you nothing.

[Rockaction5]

For those who know , you'll recognize the same effective parts found in a Bisonic /darkstar...

[geoffbyrne]

Rockaction5, many thanks for posting this info. It's always great to see a new and different maker/pickup become available - choice is good

Have you considered a 5 string version?

G.

[EssentialTension]

Looking good. I like the reverse headstock.

[LeftyJ]

Curtis Novak is now making Bisonic pickups. They're in the new Guild Starfire Bass too.
[url="http://curtisnovak.com/pickups/BS-DS.shtml"]http://curtisnovak.com/pickups/BS-DS.shtml[/url]

He also makes one that fits in a Gibson mudbucker housing!

[EssentialTension]

[quote name='LeftyJ' timestamp='1371913503' post='2119536']
Curtis Novak is now making Bisonic pickups. They're in the new Guild Starfire Bass too.
[url="http://curtisnovak.com/pickups/BS-DS.shtml"]http://curtisnovak.c...ups/BS-DS.shtml[/url]

He also makes one that fits in a Gibson mudbucker housing!
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Is that definite? The new Guild Bisonic is being supplied by Curtis Novak?

[LeftyJ]

From what I understood, yes. Which seems amazing, as the new Starfire bass is fairly affordable considering the retail value of a separate CN Bisonic.

[LukeFRC]

[quote name='Rockaction5' timestamp='1371802416' post='2118218']
some news from the other side of the channel, Jaguar type "DR" with DR re-designed bisonic type pickups. Elected "bass of the year 2012" in the french magazine "guitariste and basse magazine"
[/quote] wow... turn the headstock the right way, stick an old style bridge on that and paint it a solid colour and that might be the bass of my dreams based on looks!

[EssentialTension]

[quote name='LeftyJ' timestamp='1371926866' post='2119769']
From what I understood, yes. Which seems amazing, as the new Starfire bass is fairly affordable considering the retail value of a separate CN Bisonic.
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That's why I had thought that they had reverse engineered it in Korea to get the price.

But also there's a youtube clip, which I can't find at the moment, where the Guild guy says they bought vintage instruments and sent them to Korea to be reproduced.

[mike257]

[quote name='Rockaction5' timestamp='1371802416' post='2118218']
some news from the other side of the channel, Jaguar type "DR" with DR re-designed bisonic type pickups. Elected "bass of the year 2012" in the french magazine "guitariste and basse magazine"
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This looks fantastic!

[Rockaction5]

Hello everybody!
I'll try to answer to everything (life death and so on... answer will be... 42... joke)
- "[color=#0000ff]Have you considered a 5 string version?[/color]" yes, just ask , give pole spacing and I 'll do it.
- "[color=#0000ff]Curtis Novak is now making Bisonic pickups. They're in the new Guild Starfire Bass too[/color]." false : Curtis novak make one bisonic "clone" for sale at a certain price... they are not intend to be first mounted on the new guiLd bass .
- "[color=#0000ff]He also makes one that fits in a Gibson mudbucker housing![/color]" true... and quite false, the one Curtis mounted inside the EB mudbucker is more a big P90 than a real bisonic system, no sandwhich core, no adjustable pole pieces, different magnet, different bobin geometry and different bobin ohm value, it's still a bass pickups though... See picture somewhere in US Talkbass forum.
- "[color=#0000ff]wow... turn the headstock the right way, stick an old style bridge on that and paint it a solid colour and that might be the bass of my dreams based on looks![/color]" well, contact me for an order and you'll get it right (beside this, this one has a set and carve adjusted neck) (see picture)



and finally here's another "DR" bisonic housed in a PAF pickup cover for mounting on a "special" EB bass...

[LeftyJ]

[quote name='Rockaction5' timestamp='1372083671' post='2121341']
- "[color=#0000ff]Curtis Novak is now making Bisonic pickups. They're in the new Guild Starfire Bass too[/color]." false : Curtis novak make one bisonic "clone" for sale at a certain price... they are not intend to be first mounted on the new guiLd bass .[/quote]

You're right, I'm mistaken. A friend of mine was at the Messe in Frankfurt, played the new Starfire Bass, and spoke to both Curtis Novak and a Fender representative. I thought he'd said Novak makes the new Guild Bisonic pickups, but you're absolutely right. Sorry for the confusion!