Hutton Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 Does anyone know why Fender have stopped fitting schaller straplocks to their basses? Quote
chris_b Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 So they don't have to pay Schaller for them. Quote
Hutton Posted October 24, 2011 Author Posted October 24, 2011 [quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1319468689' post='1414440'] So they don't have to pay Schaller for them. [/quote] They had to pay Schaller for the locks when they did fit them so I think there must be more to it than this unless it is simple economics. It's a pest having a couple of straps fitted with the locks but then having a bass that has to have to locks retro fitted. OK, it's not a big deal but I just wondered if anybody knew why they had stopped fitting the locks. Quote
EssentialTension Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 I've never had a Fender that came with straplocks fitted. Which models had those? Quote
Subbeh Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 My deluxe jazz came with a set and theyre still listed on the site as part of the included kit. Quote
Hutton Posted October 24, 2011 Author Posted October 24, 2011 I'm pretty sure that they have been fitted on MIA instruments since the 80s right up to the American Series stuff. They seem to have stopped with the latest American Standard instruments. Quote
bigsmokebass Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 I didn't know fender put strap locks on thier basses. How long ago was this or what series? Quote
EssentialTension Posted October 24, 2011 Posted October 24, 2011 I've had several MIA Fenders since the 1980s and never had a factory fitted straplock on any of them. Quote
Hutton Posted October 25, 2011 Author Posted October 25, 2011 [quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1319496231' post='1415008'] I've had several MIA Fenders since the 1980s and never had a factory fitted straplock on any of them. [/quote] I also have had several brand new Fenders especially American Series guitars. They all had schaller straplock buttons fitted with the strap part included in the case. They were marketed as Fender although they were made by schaller and exactly the same as the schaller version. If you look at the current Fender website the deluxe versions have schaller straplock buttons fitted as Subbeh points out. Highway One guitars/basses/reissues/special editions didn't seem have the locks. They were however fitted to the standard series basses. My 1984 precision has them factory fitted. Quote
eddiehoffmann Posted October 25, 2011 Posted October 25, 2011 I think only the American Deluxe series had/has them fitted. I bought an American Deluxe P- Bass in 2001 that came with the Schaller strap locks. Quote
MacDaddy Posted October 25, 2011 Posted October 25, 2011 [quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1319496231' post='1415008'] I've had several MIA Fenders since the 1980s and never had a factory fitted straplock on any of them. [/quote] me too, had to put my own strap locks on. Just seen eddies post, but I'm sure I've played Deluxe series that didn't the plot thickens... Quote
EssentialTension Posted October 25, 2011 Posted October 25, 2011 [quote name='eddiehoffmann' timestamp='1319527394' post='1415097'] I think only the American Deluxe series had/has them fitted. I bought an American Deluxe P- Bass in 2001 that came with the Schaller strap locks. [/quote] Maybe my memory is going but, IIRC, my 2006 American Deluxe P didn't have them. Quote
EssentialTension Posted October 25, 2011 Posted October 25, 2011 [quote name='MacDaddy' timestamp='1319532726' post='1415155'] me too, had to put my own strap locks on. Just seen eddies post, but I'm sure I've played Deluxe series that didn't the plot thickens... [/quote] ... with Fender, never say never, anything is possible. Quote
EssentialTension Posted October 25, 2011 Posted October 25, 2011 A bassist friend of mine - who, anyway, wouldn't know a straplock if it hit him in the face - has a from new 2004 American Deluxe P5 with no straplocks. Quote
Hutton Posted October 25, 2011 Author Posted October 25, 2011 This thread has probably had it's day. Some us got Fenders with locks some didn't. Really nothing else to say. Thanks for the input everybody. Quote
EssentialTension Posted October 25, 2011 Posted October 25, 2011 [quote name='Hutton' timestamp='1319536459' post='1415228'] This thread has probably had it's day. Some us got Fenders with locks some didn't. Really nothing else to say. Thanks for the input everybody. [/quote] So, that's probably typical of Fender. Quote
Lfalex v1.1 Posted October 25, 2011 Posted October 25, 2011 (edited) [quote name='EssentialTension' timestamp='1319537100' post='1415245'] So, that's probably typical of Fender.[/quote] No, that would be a strap lock on the top horn and a regular button below the bridge. At least no one had a bass like that from new! Edit for dodgy predictive text on "smart" phone. Edited October 26, 2011 by Lfalex v1.1 Quote
EssentialTension Posted October 25, 2011 Posted October 25, 2011 [quote name='Lfalex v1.1' timestamp='1319556952' post='1415755'] No, that would be a strap lock on the top horn and a regular button below the bridge. A12 least no one had a bass like that from new! [/quote] .. with Fender, never say never. Quote
bigsmokebass Posted October 26, 2011 Posted October 26, 2011 Taken from the current Fender US Deluxe Jazz specs: ____________________________________________ Accessories Case Gig Bags: Molded rectangular SKB® case Included Accessories: Cable, Strap, Strap Locks Strap Locks: Schaller® Strap Lock System ____________________________________________ so, it seems like they still do, but they always say that they can change any specs, any time and who's to say the shops have no input on this? I know once when I've looked into buying Fenders, Instore, they have tried to sell me the gig bag! Lol, not saying its all stores but this was in my home town of Liverpool Quote
4 Strings Posted October 27, 2011 Posted October 27, 2011 (edited) 1997 American Jazz Deluxe, no straplocks. Would have been nice, had to put on my own. Edited October 27, 2011 by 4 Strings Quote
Hutton Posted November 2, 2011 Author Posted November 2, 2011 I picked up these strapbuttons the other day. Fender American Series made by Schaller. Interesting! Quote
Guest McBass Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 I ditched my Schaller strap locks after they put dings my 60th Anniversary Jazz Deluxe. Quote
Hutton Posted November 2, 2011 Author Posted November 2, 2011 Funny isn't it. I've never had a problem with them. They are on all my basses. Quote
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