xgsjx Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 OK, silly question to some. But why do companies like Sadowsky, Nordy, Sandberg & so on make Jazz copies & say they sound "Just like a Jazz" when you can buy a Fender Jazz that sounds "Just like a Jazz" for about 1/2 the price (or less) & the punters won't think you couldn't afford a proper Fender? I can understand the basses that sound "Just like a Jazz" but don't look "Just like a Jazz", such as the Ritter Cora. I like the sound of a Jazz (and the Precision), but I don't like the Fender body designs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 Very interesting point there. Reminds me of an interview I read with Paul Stanley, of KISS. His guitar tech turned up at the studio, and said, hey Paul theres this new thing out that sounds like a Les Paul through a Marshall, do you want one. Paul replied, no thanks, I`ve already got one. The tech enquired how come, as they were only just being released, and what was it called then, hoping to call his bluff. Paul Stanley replied, it`s called a Les Paul and a Marshall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 I have two..and they play, feel and sound way better than any Fender Jazz I have played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteb Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 (edited) The truth is that Fender don't do Fender that well! Sadowsky et al take the basic idea / look and execute it a he'll of a lot better than the original...! Edited October 26, 2011 by peteb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doddy Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 [quote name='peteb' timestamp='1319630367' post='1416583']The truth is that Fender don't do Fender that well! Sadowsky et al take the basic idea and look and execute it a he'll of a lot better than the original...![/quote] I don't know about that. I think Fender still do Fender better than anyone,but makers like Sadowsky enhance it. A Sadowsky doesn't really sound like Fender because of its famed preamp,but what it does is it gives a more 'refined' and 'modern' version of the Fender sound (As far as I'm concerned,of course).As a passive instrument though,I think Fender still do it great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algmusic Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 [quote name='peteb' timestamp='1319630367' post='1416583'] The truth is that Fender don't do Fender that well! Sadowsky et al take the basic idea / look and execute it a he'll of a lot better than the original...! [/quote] I think I'll have to disagree.. It's based on the a point of reference, it's seen a benchmark like an SM58.. People say Fender Jazz or P so people get an idea of the type of sound... I think Sadowsky sound very nice, but they are not fenders.. I wouldn't buy a Sadowsky because I want fender that's better, because it isn't. I'd buy Sadowsky because I like it or fender because I like that bass. Really Sadowsky should have made up there own name.. Funny stingrays, sterlings and Rickenbackers don't seem to have this problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfalex v1.1 Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 I suppose that there are only so many body shapes that are comfortable / well-balanced / good-looking / immediately recognisable / familiar etc. And the rough "Jazz" shape fits the bill for a lot of the people a lot of the time. For that reason it's a logical starting point for a lot of bass manufacturers when deciding on or developing a body shape. A good Fender is still a super instrument, and the current American standards are good examples of the breed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfalex v1.1 Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 [quote name='algmusic' timestamp='1319630921' post='1416595'] Really Sadowsky should have made up there own name.. Funny stingrays, sterlings and Rickenbackers don't seem to have this problem [/quote] They have their own issues. Or rather Mssrs Ball and Hall seem to, which can only really detract from the brand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteb Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 [quote name='algmusic' timestamp='1319630921' post='1416595'] I think I'll have to disagree.. It's based on the a point of reference, it's seen a benchmark like an SM58.. People say Fender Jazz or P so people get an idea of the type of sound... I think Sadowsky sound very nice, but they are not fenders.. I wouldn't buy a Sadowsky because I want fender that's better, because it isn't. I'd buy Sadowsky because I like it or fender because I like that bass. Really Sadowsky should have made up there own name.. Funny stingrays, sterlings and Rickenbackers don't seem to have this problem [/quote] I agree that a Fender Jazz or P is certainly a reference sound and they are design classics, but I would still say that many other builders do 'Fender' better than the original (having owned a few at various times). A lot of people want something with a Fender look and feel, but want it to be better built and perhaps have the option of a more 'refined' and 'modern' version of the Fender sound, to quote Doddy. There is still a certain appeal to a Fender and I must confess that I have succombed and bought a rather beautifull looking s/h US jazz recently - but it has cost me a fair bit of time and money to get it to play and sound anything like as well as my other basses! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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