Attitude is important !!

[Coilte]

When this lad was given some polite constructive criticism of his playing from someone on the "Talk Bass" forum, he replied with a torrent of abuse, calling the commentator a c***t, among other things. These comments have since been deleted. The guy posted it on TB. Hence all the negative comments. IMO they did this lad a favour. Hopefully he'll wake up and smell the coffee.


[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJmRTw5Qnqg"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJmRTw5Qnqg[/url]

[51m0n]

Well I can understand that, after all his rendition of suck my kiss is pretty much the best I've ever heard ......

[discreet]

Did somebody fart in a biscuit tin?
Seriously though, he's about 9, isn't he? He could do with a 3/4 size bass.

[chris_b]

[size=4]Families used to be the only ones subjected to that standard of playing. It's the downside of technology! [/size]

[Pete Academy]

I'm joining TABS...Tirade Against Bad Slapping.

[AntLockyer]

I jsut read the youtube comments. Oh my!

[Raggy]

[quote name='Pete Academy' timestamp='1320413097' post='1426536']
I'm joining TABS...Tirade Against Bad Slapping.
[/quote]

I'm in

[Gust0o]

Ouch. Always good to have constructive criticism; pity he didn't take it; pity it now looks like trolling.

But hey, you make your bed.

[icastle]

Ah.
Right.

Leaving aside 'attitude' as many early teens have issues with growing up, timing is pretty dire and technique isn't great.
Think it needs a lot more work before embarrasing oneself on the internet...

[Coilte]

It was not so much his playing that prompted me to post. Yes, it leaves a lot to be desired, but you have to start somewhere. It was his inability to accept constructive criticism, and his hostile reaction to it, that surprised me. Being young and rebellious, having "issues" etc, is one thing, but there is no excuse IMO, ( except that is, for bad upbringing) for his hostile reaction.

Edited November 4, 2011 by Coilte

[EdwardHimself]

There's nothing wr[quote name='Coilte' timestamp='1320417290' post='1426642']It was not so much his playing that prompted me to post. Yes, it leaves a lot to be desired, but you have to start somewhere. It was his inability to accept constructive criticism, and his hostile reaction to it, that surprised me. Being young and rebellious, having "issues" etc, is one thing, but there is no excuse IMO, ( except that is, for bad upbringing) for his hostile reaction.[/quote]

This. I mean there is nothing wrong with being a sh*t bass player (I was pretty crap when I was 14) but there is just no need to act like an idiot just because people are offering you criticism.

[Pete Academy]

I see this quite a lot. When someone starts to learn an instrument, they develop an early boost of confidence that compels them to play crude riffs loud and proud in music shops. Coupled with teenage hormones and angst, this results in an inability to accept criticism.

The problem here is that Youtube is the world's biggest music shop.

[Coilte]

[quote name='Pete Academy' timestamp='1320418452' post='1426672']
I see this quite a lot. When someone starts to learn an instrument, they develop an early boost of confidence that compels them to play crude riffs loud and proud in music shops. Coupled with teenage hormones and angst, this results in an inability to accept criticism.

[/quote]

I agree in part. Times have certainly changed. When I was that guy's age, while we were no angels, neither I nor my peers would dream of reacting in such a hostile way.....teenage hormones or otherwise.

[EdwardHimself]

[quote name='Coilte' timestamp='1320419040' post='1426678'] I agree in part. Times have certainly changed. When I was that guy's age, while we were no angels, neither I nor my peers would dream of reacting in such a hostile way.....teenage hormones or otherwise.[/quote]

you probably didn't have a computer to hide behind. Whilst I'm sure this lad wouldn't dream of calling a middle aged 100 kilo man a **** to his face, because he is tucked up safely in his room far away then he doesn't have to worry about the repercussions of his actions.

Edited November 4, 2011 by EdwardHimself

[51m0n]

[quote name='Pete Academy' timestamp='1320418452' post='1426672']
I see this quite a lot. When someone starts to learn an instrument, they develop an early boost of confidence that compels them to play crude riffs loud and proud in music shops. Coupled with teenage hormones and angst, this results in an inability to accept criticism.

The problem here is that Youtube is the world's biggest music shop.
[/quote]

So what's my excuse Pete???

[originalfunkbrother]

I havent watched the video but I guess when someone finds it hard to accept criticism, it could also be down to the fact that he may have been misinformed by family/friends and they made him think he was the ish (as the young would say).
As the OP said, hopefully he (and every other budding player) will wake up and smell the coffee.

[Pete Academy]

[quote name='funkygreega' timestamp='1320420707' post='1426715']
I havent watched the video but I guess when someone finds it hard to accept criticism, it could also be down to the fact that he may have been misinformed by family/friends and they made him think he was the ish (as the young would say).
As the OP said, hopefully he (and every other budding player) will wake up and smell the coffee.
[/quote]

Just like the X-Factor hopefuls.

[Len_derby]

Doesn't this sort of thing make you glad that YouTube, Facebook etc wasn't around when you were a kid?
It does me.
I've got my brothers and sisters to remind me what a t**t I was. Thank God there's no video evidence.

[Skol303]

[quote name='Len_derby' timestamp='1320423202' post='1426755']
I've got my brothers and sisters to remind me what a t**t I was. Thank God there's no video evidence.
[/quote]

^ That made me laugh... I agree wholeheartedly!

[Blademan_98]

I think the difference between me and a young begginer is that I accept I'm rubbish and post stuff just to get a reaction!

Still, if you can't take it, really don't post it.

The reaction is just bravado on his part

[icastle]

[quote name='EdwardHimself' timestamp='1320420060' post='1426701']

you probably didn't have a computer to hide behind. Whilst I'm sure this lad wouldn't dream of calling a middle aged 100 kilo man a **** to his face, because he is tucked up safely in his room far away then he doesn't have to worry about the repercussions of his actions.
[/quote]

Yes, that's one of the problems with the internet, people manufacture personas for themselves that are laughably different from their real life ones - a huge overcompensation for their own ignorance and ineffectiveness IME.

As for me, I just stay the same - I'm a complete kn*b in real life as well...

[RhysP]

I've never seen myself playing on video like that, and I'm very worried that after 32+ years of playing I'd find out that I sound just like that kid.

[Musky]

[quote name='RhysP' timestamp='1320440577' post='1427038']
I've never seen myself playing on video like that, and I'm very worried that after 32+ years of playing I'd find out that I sound just like that kid.
[/quote]
Ditto that!

God how I hate it when they solo the bass track in the studio...

[AttitudeCastle]

You can tell from his Username what his attitude is likely to be like

[GarethFlatlands]

I always thought you needed to be told you were good at first when you sucked to keep plugging awaty and told you weren't as good as you thought later on to keep you trying.

Of course the internet has skewed all that slightly.