Status neck on musicman bass... why?

[phatkat]

Whats with the practice of fitting a Status neck to a stingray...?

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[MB1]

MB1.
No dead spots,improves sustain,narrower neck profile,wont go out tune as often,Carbon Graphite is more stable than wood.
Try one!

[lapolpora]

Unrequited lust for that impossible to find Cutlass

[obbm]

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MB1.
No dead spots,improves sustain,narrower neck profile,wont go out tune as often,Carbon Graphite is more stable than wood.
Try one!
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+1

[Chris2112]

[quote name='MB1' timestamp='1320587299' post='1428587']
MB1.
No dead spots,improves sustain,narrower neck profile,wont go out tune as often,Carbon Graphite is more stable than wood.
Try one!
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Got it in one! It's lighter too. And sounds better!

[BassBus]

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MB1.
No dead spots...
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Actually graphite necks can have dead spots. Rob states that on the Status site and I have quite a nice dead spot on the open A on my S2 fretless.

[Chris2112]

[quote name='BassBus' timestamp='1320598135' post='1428788']
Actually graphite necks can have dead spots. Rob states that on the Status site and I have quite a nice dead spot on the open A on my S2 fretless.
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Indeed, but IIRC, with the higher resonant frequency on a graphite neck they were much more likely to be either over the 12th fret, or at a frequency above what the bass can produce.

[thisnameistaken]

I only ever owned one Stingray and sold it because of the dead spots. I hope they're not all like that, but if they are, the trade in after-market necks should be booming.

[stingrayPete1977]

[quote name='thisnameistaken' timestamp='1320598654' post='1428797']I only ever owned one Stingray and sold it because of the dead spots. I hope they're not all like that, but if they are, the trade in after-market necks should be booming. [/quote]

They are not

The argument for more sustain is the same as the one for fitting a badass bridge on a Fender bass, some say it does, some say it doesn't and some say it does but they preferred it with the standard one.

Status themselves as someone else pointed out say you can still get dead spots.

Tuning would be better but then again even my bullet truss rod equipped Ray holds very well.
Which leaves neck width which you can get new as a Slo neck model anyway.

[stingrayPete1977]

That said I'd love a modulus 5 one day

[Darkstrike]

"They're awesome!" probably answers this well.


Plus, with pretty much no other aftermarket neck options, it's probably the only game in town for a fretted to fretless mod, or the reverse.

[Jean-Luc Pickguard]

I bet a roasted graphite neck would be even better

[4000]

For me, the reason would be stability, end of story.

[stingrayPete1977]

I'm with 4000 which means the same applies for P and Jazz basses too if your gigging takes you from different humiditys day to day which I believe was part of the reason Flea ditched Rays? A few years later and he is back to wooden neck basses anyway. I think EBMM missed a trick not making a Flea signature with a modulus neck.

[BB3000S]

Love the feel of my Stingray necks and have no issues at all with dead spots or stability.
Still lust for a Status neck mind!! Sounds to me like a brill combo.

[Chris2112]

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1320615507' post='1429107']
I think EBMM missed a trick not making a Flea signature with a modulus neck.
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Didn't he make some outlandish demands, like that he wanted the Stingray to be renamed 'The Flea bass' or something? I also think EBMM are not the kind of progressive company that would choose to have graphite necks.

[stingrayPete1977]

Would it of been that outlandish at the time? Many people still see flea as a Ray player. Would making a bass they had already made under MM years earlier be progressive, I'm not a Status expert but I'm guessing the Cutlass pre dates Status?

[MB1]

Would it of been that outlandish at the time? Many people still see flea as a Ray player. Would making a bass they had already made under MM years earlier be progressive, I'm not a Status expert but I'm guessing the Cutlass pre dates Status?

MB1.
Not sure on the cutlass date but i do remember seeing the first Status series one basses (then called Strata basses) on BBCs Tomorrows World.
Strata bass number 29 dates to 1982
when did MM Cutlasses go into production?

Edited November 7, 2011 by MB1

[EBS_freak]

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1320685226' post='1429986']
Would it of been that outlandish at the time? Many people still see flea as a Ray player. Would making a bass they had already made under MM years earlier be progressive, I'm not a Status expert but I'm guessing the Cutlass pre dates Status?
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Close call - Cutlass birthdate is 1982 (with Modulus manufactured neck) with Status being 81 - the Status folks may be clearer around the dates. Is 1981 the birth of GMT or was Rob going before this? Geoff Gould (founder of modulus) apparently presented first graphite necked bass in 1977... so it looks like MM and Status were lagging by a few years.

Edited November 7, 2011 by EBS_freak

[BassBus]

Status are celibrating their 30th Anniversary this year so '81 was the start for them. Steinberger started production in 1976.

[EBS_freak]

According to the Steinberger history on their site -

1977
[size="2"][color="#999999"]Several prototypes made of graphite reinforced epoxy are manufactured.[/color][/size]

[size="2"]Any advances on 1977?[/size]

[EBS_freak]

From Alembic wiki -

In 1976, Alembic made the world's first graphite neck basses with necks supplied by Geoff Gould, who subsequently founded Modulus.

Well.. somebody is wrong! (my previous comment about Geoff Gould presenting the first graphite necked bass in 1977 was this Alembic - maybe it was finished in 76 and made aware to the public in 77?)

[stingrayPete1977]

So not all that progressive then really is it the 1970's? I would have a Modulus neck Ray but at the same time I dont feel a need to fit one. To me these so called forward thinking progressive graphite basses look more dated to me or rather stuck in an era most of us want to forget where as a Ray has passed over with the Jazz and P bass as a timeless classic

Edited November 7, 2011 by stingrayPete1977

[stingrayPete1977]

Also remember Flea was rocking a Modulus neck Ray before Big Poppa had his hand on the wheel,The Red Hot Chili Peppers- 'Red Hot Chili Peppers' came out in 1984 mostly recorded on one If anything Flea was flying the graphite neck flag a decade before he fell out with EBMM.

[MB1]

So not all that progressive then really is it the 1970's? I would have a Modulus neck Ray but at the same time I dont feel a need to fit one. To me these so called forward thinking progressive graphite basses look more dated to me or rather stuck in an era most of us want to forget where as a Ray has passed over with the Jazz and P bass as a timeless classic
MB1.
Blatent Stingray pompousity!