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Beefyeggo
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[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1320869649' post='1432642']
Palm mute with thumb with a pick type action. You aren't going for much speed here.
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Fair point but there's plenty of grace notes and 'feel' type strokes which I can't manage with just a thumb. Gets a nice new blister as it is!

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I've been messing around with foam under the bridge of my bass all week in the studio trying to replicate Carol Kaye's tic-tac bass sound on Pet Sounds for one of or tracks (even though she placed a piece of felt over her strings as opposed to under the bridge). I regularly palm mute and use a piece of foam under the strings for recording and live, but I wanted to try it out with a pick. I ended up recording through a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe amp and wth the spring reverb cranked, it sounded fantastic!

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On my Precision I use the foam from underneath a Jazz bass pickup. I also have one of these:

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mufler-Bass-Guitar-Mute-Jazz-Sound-/130597126010?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e6831ff7a"]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mufler-Bass-Guitar-Mute-Jazz-Sound-/130597126010?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e6831ff7a[/url]

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[quote name='BurritoBass' timestamp='1320852997' post='1432279']
One thing I've noticed it it definitely sounds better when I play down the neck, the impact is slightly lost once you get further up the fretboard. Personally I don't have a problem with this guy's tone & I remember the clip when I saw it on Jools Holland's show. However, I do have a problem with his pickguard choice! Just goes to show we are all different :)
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I quite like his tone too- very retro- vintage- no problem with his playing either- dont think it would look as good with the bass under armpits a la marky king!!

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[quote name='Beefyeggo' timestamp='1320838132' post='1432002']
In Mexico recently I spotted a guy playing an elderly Jazz with a piece of what appeared to be a piece of upholstery foam underneath the strings near the bridge.

I couldn't get close enough to take a proper look or ask the guy about it.. Does anyone know the purpose of this?

Rob

p.s. My profile says [u]no longer[/u] a newbie but that's bollocks...
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Robbie Shakespear (Sly & Robbie) had a similar piece of foam under his strings when I saw him live in Rome 2001

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Not sure about the "girls way" comment and the palm mute if your playing fingers?

Otherwise, I like the effect on recordings and in certain free situations away from the normal covers sets I do I now often use some foam with flats and enjoy the results

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Palm muting with fingers is a ballache at the best of times, but it is possible. I tend to use my ring finger to just rest on the string and pluck with my index and middle but it wasn't easy to learn at first, felt properly wierd. Nowadays i'm that used to having my ring finger there that if i can feel my strap coming off, or it does come off, that my finger just jumps at the B string to hold up my bass whilst i carry on playing, useful skill to have.

Liam

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[quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1320839866' post='1432040']
[size=4][color=#222222][font=Arial]The differences: [/font][/color][/size]

[size=4][color=#222222][font=Arial]Too much foam under the strings in a live situation. At 1.45 the bass player tries to play a line which he screws up because the notes die instantly. It doesn't work and sounds awful to me.[/font][/color][/size]

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[size=4][color=#222222][font=Arial]This is the original, with foam. The same line at 1.56 sounds pretty good to me but this is in the studio where it works well. [/font][/color][/size]

[size=4][color=#222222][font=Arial][url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPJ-KnveLh8"][color=#800080]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPJ-KnveLh8[/color][/url][/font][/color][/size]

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I just love the sound but I do agree that it works better in the studio or at quieter gigs. I also love both of these versions, probably because I don't know the song that well so didn't notice that the bassist in the 1st clip had actually made a mistake.

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[quote name='owen' timestamp='1320946546' post='1433623']
Felt under the strings sounds different from foam.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwYoi9G67DU&feature=player_embedded#[/media]!
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That's a brilliant double bass sound Owen, the clatter of the strings is very authentic. The playing is cool too!
Can we see what the dampers look like? I never got foam to sound like this.

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i've used a bit of foam under sthe strings on and off over the years,it's a great sound in the right place.
If you get a chance to see the "Classic Albums" program about Lennons Plastic Ono Band theres some bits with the great Klaus Voorman showing his bassline all played on his beaten up Precision with a lump of foam under the strings,great sound .Check this at 3:30

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=KeV_qWk-_9s"]http://www.youtube.c...1&v=KeV_qWk-_9s[/url]

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I spent an afternoon trying out all sorts of foam on an acoustic bass, and in the end settled on some rolled up kitchen towel, squashed down more under the lighter strings. It gave quite a passable double-bass-ish sound whereas the foam either muted too much or too little.

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