ped Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 [quote name='thodrik' timestamp='1486937823' post='3235784'] That is a funky looking bridge! I'm interested to know what all the various knobs and switches do as well. Great buy! [/quote] Yes it's a cool design - Vigier's own, which they used for a while before switching to the Kahler bridge. It's very adjustable although the string saddles are really 'deep' so need filing down for a super low action. The knobs are as follows: Switch at the top is for pickup selection (front, both, back) and the knob below that is volume with a pull for boost Down the right hand side there's a frequency select between 80hz and 5200hz, pull to activate, then the gain for the boost/cut of said frequency (+/- 15dB), a little phase switch for series/parralell and finally a tone control that to me feels like it has a huge clean boost too. It sounds neutral about half way round! The output on the top is for bypassing the active electronics completely and the main output is on the side of the bass. The pre-amp is very complicated to get your head round but really useful once you master it! It's hard to find these circuits unmodified now as lots of people replace them with a standard 2/3 band system. Cheers ped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrabass Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 [quote name='Bbiigg Kev' timestamp='1486945430' post='3235831'] Nice, what is serial number ? [/quote] Yes. The serial number is 187 Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Here are some other Vigiers I've owned: Series 3 five string Passion [URL=http://smg.photobucket.com/user/lukeward2004/media/PasionTotal7-1.jpg.html][IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/lukeward2004/PasionTotal7-1.jpg[/IMG][/URL] Series 2 four string Passion [url=https://flic.kr/p/Me4EL4][/url][url=https://flic.kr/p/Me4EL4]Vigier Passion 1985 series II[/url] by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/chiscocks/]Christopher Hiscocks[/url], on Flickr Fretless 4 string series 3 Passion [URL=http://smg.photobucket.com/user/pedullaman/media/05685a88.jpg.html][IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/pedullaman/05685a88.jpg[/IMG][/URL] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Pino tearing it down on his fretless Vigier http://youtu.be/YTWt_pKiMl4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbiigg Kev Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 [quote name='barrabass' timestamp='1486979966' post='3235941'] Yes. The serial number is 187 Why? [/quote] Just interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazed Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 thanks Ped. Just lost the last hour to Youtube'ing Pino in the 80's ...... Again I should try a Vigier one day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fihermanmusician Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 [font="Calibri"][size="3"][color="#000000"]Hello all you Vigier Bass owners.[/color][/size][/font] [font="Calibri"][size="3"][color="#000000"]I have a Vigier Passion 5C with the strap button underneath the top horn. [/color][/size][/font] [font="Calibri"][size="3"][color="#000000"]How have you managed the strap attachment without the strap slipping to the back if you route it over the end of the horn? I’d be interested to know. I resorted to a custom made strap. I have a leather loop about 100mm long x 35mm wide, stitched to the main strap, with two holes punched in it for the button, giving a choice for best angle and balance. Not perfect, but best I could think of. Just means I can’t change straps easily.[/color][/size][/font] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 [quote name='fihermanmusician' timestamp='1487009853' post='3236247'] [font=Calibri][size=3][color=#000000]Hello all you Vigier Bass owners.[/color][/size][/font] [font=Calibri][size=3][color=#000000]I have a Vigier Passion 5C with the strap button underneath the top horn. [/color][/size][/font] [font=Calibri][size=3][color=#000000]How have you managed the strap attachment without the strap slipping to the back if you route it over the end of the horn? I’d be interested to know. I resorted to a custom made strap. I have a leather loop about 100mm long x 35mm wide, stitched to the main strap, with two holes punched in it for the button, giving a choice for best angle and balance. Not perfect, but best I could think of. Just means I can’t change straps easily.[/color][/size][/font] [/quote] Good question. I find when standing up the strap hangs quite straight from the strap pin so I like the design - however on one of my basses (the black fretless above) the strap button had been moved to the end of the horn which you could try. I moved it back as I said I find it works well for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrabass Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 [quote name='Bbiigg Kev' timestamp='1486984624' post='3235987'] Just interest. [/quote] The serial number of the another red is 981 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbiigg Kev Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 [quote name='barrabass' timestamp='1487012943' post='3236272'] The serial number of the another red is 981 [/quote] Cheers, good to have a feel for order numbers !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrabass Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 [quote name='Bbiigg Kev' timestamp='1487018824' post='3236327'] Cheers, good to have a feel for order numbers !!! [/quote] Hi http://188.130.104.14/sites/medias/pdf/12.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Mine are Passion #733 15/10/88 Arpege #93 15/12/86 Arpege #130 Not sure because the database only starts with series 2... have emailed Patrice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbiigg Kev Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 There must be more Vigier owners out there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbiigg Kev Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 (edited) OK. so its a couple of guitars but with basses !!! One Vigier Arpege 111, One Vigier Excalibur Surfreter Supra Pearl White, One Vigier Excalibur Surfreter Supra Wine Red and my trustee Grand Master Custom fiver snuck in there !!! Edited February 13, 2017 by Bbiigg Kev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thodrik Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 I have an Excess II in a finish I think was called 'urban grey'. I've had it since 2004. The pick ups are ridiculously powerful. Terrific bass and great for rock music and slap. I think the treble EQ point is set a bit too high for my tastes though as I think it is a bit glassy when boosted. I also have an Arpege IV five string and I think that there a couple of pics of it earlier in this thread. If I am being honest I don't really rate the phenowood neck as highly as the big slab of maple on the Excess. That is just personal preference though. The three band EQ for each pick up is pretty mad but a cool feature. My brother has an Excalibur guitar which is a very nice super strat type guitar. He describes it as almost too perfect and if pushed he prefers the quicks of his seventies Tele Custom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 [quote name='thodrik' timestamp='1487181709' post='3237857'] I have an Excess II in a finish I think was called 'urban grey'. I've had it since 2004. The pick ups are ridiculously powerful. Terrific bass and great for rock music and slap. I think the treble EQ point is set a bit too high for my tastes though as I think it is a bit glassy when boosted. I also have an Arpege IV five string and I think that there a couple of pics of it earlier in this thread. If I am being honest I don't really rate the phenowood neck as highly as the big slab of maple on the Excess. That is just personal preference though. The three band EQ for each pick up is pretty mad but a cool feature. My brother has an Excalibur guitar which is a very nice super strat type guitar. He describes it as almost too perfect and if pushed he prefers the quicks of his seventies Tele Custom. [/quote] Yes the Benedetti pickups are amazing. The old ones have a really unusual 'Tabletop' shape I can't play guitar but my friend bought an Excalibur too after trying my bass years ago. I have to say that even I can strum it as the neck just seems to disappear in your hand, it's so well finished and feels really played in. The finish is amazing, too. If I did play guitar I'd get this one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbiigg Kev Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 (edited) Hi Ped, Nautilus is RARE me thinks !!! Have you ever been round the Vigier museum at PV factory, now that is interesting !!! Also have you tried Surfreters ? Edited February 17, 2017 by Bbiigg Kev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 [quote name='Bbiigg Kev' timestamp='1487325516' post='3238920'] Hi Ped, Nautilus is RARE me thinks !!! Have you ever been round the Vigier museum at PV factory, now that is interesting !!! Also have you tried Surfreters ? [/quote] It's rare alright - I was offered a Nautilus bass several years ago and at the time I wasn't in a position to buy - It was in Canada and not 100% electrically sound so I passed. Kicking myself now, though. I've emailed the guy since but he's not responding so maybe he's using a different address or something. Would love to see the museum - didn't know he had one, to be honest. I have just been talking to Patrice about doing an interview for us so perhaps I'll go and see it one day. Don't suppose you took any pictures? Never tried a Surfreter but did have a Delta Metal fretless which was the same playing surface, it really sang but I was forever polishing it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbiigg Kev Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Hi, PV is a smashing chap, I last went October 2015, he was finishing a couple of Glover basses for Roger and was on the verge of delivering them for the start of that leg of Purple tour. Its NOT a museum as such, not open to public, more of a place where they store/keep rare as rocking horse sh*t stuff like first versions or very early versions of Vigier guitars and basses, Nautilus and the Cheese guitar spring to mind plus anything they need to keep record off, development instruments and really nice gear. Nice people inc luthier Alex and thanks for the freebies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Ah right OK, sounds cool. I remember a chap telling me that Vigier wanted to buy his rare bass (think it was a later Nautilus when they changed it to a programmable system with less knobs) but because he didn't have the pedalboard to match they passed. My fretless should be here next week... I've ordered a set of finger puppets for it, check them out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Won these, too - full on [color=#ff0000]bidding war[/color] costing me the princely sum of £2.20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbiigg Kev Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 So I need finger puppets then ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 For some reason I've always put them on my tuners (see previous posts http://basschat.co.uk/topic/160340-vigier-porn/page__view__findpost__p__3227941) They keep everything in check Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbiigg Kev Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 (edited) Vigier at guitar show next weekend !!! New Bingley Hall Brum. Edited February 20, 2017 by Bbiigg Kev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbiigg Kev Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 Any one else go !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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