mhuk Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 Do all Fenders have the serial number on the head? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muppet Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 Nope. Some have it on the neck plate. Some even have it stamped on the bridge. Even on the headstock it can be on the front or the back depending on year, factory etc. That logo is a copy I think or on a reissue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muppet Posted June 12, 2007 Share Posted June 12, 2007 (edited) [quote name='dlloyd' post='16616' date='Jun 13 2007, 12:14 AM']I didn't see the photo first time round... Yep, that looks like an after market decal that's been applied uncut. It should look something like this (as far as I'm aware)...[/quote] Yup, the logo on the first pic is not quite right. It's a sort of cross between a 1960 and a 1961 logo. The second pic looks like a [genuine] pre 66 logo, although those tuners ain't right as far as I'm aware. Edited June 12, 2007 by Muppet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99ster Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 (edited) [quote name='Muppet' post='16618' date='Jun 13 2007, 12:18 AM']Yup, the logo on the first pic is not quite right. It's a sort of cross between a 1960 and a 1961 logo. The second pic looks like a [genuine] pre 66 logo, although those tuners ain't right as far as I'm aware.[/quote] Spot on Muppet. The first one is a messed up attempt at a 1960 logo (missing the 'PAT PEND.' ) on a modern headstock. The 2nd pic does indeed look like a genuine 64 logo - but the tuners are wrong for that year - they should be pinned reverse Klusons - quite apart from their obviously brand new shiny look... (Oh no - Just realised what a 'vintage geek' I've turned into!!! ) Edited June 13, 2007 by 99ster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhuk Posted June 13, 2007 Author Share Posted June 13, 2007 Cheers for the replies. The seller says it's 10 years old; fake then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99ster Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 [quote name='mhuk' post='16682' date='Jun 13 2007, 09:24 AM']Cheers for the replies. The seller says it's 10 years old; fake then?[/quote] It would be a (poor) fake if he said it was a 40 year old vintage Jazz... But he's not if he's saying it dates from 1997. And it could very well be 10 years old - & then the value depends more on what type of bass he says it is - not how old it is... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOD2 Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 I'm no "vintage geek" lol, but shouldn't the "Custom Contour Body" transfer be placed further to the right, rather than tight up against the rest of the writing ? Is this a fake ? Difficult to say exactly what it is from just the one picture but that picture does seem to throw up several questions which suggest that something's not right. If it's an aftermarket decal that's been put on then you have to ask if it's a Fender at all ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhuk Posted June 13, 2007 Author Share Posted June 13, 2007 (edited) Just listed as a Fender Jazz bass. Is there a good "guide to Fender basses" book? Edited June 13, 2007 by mhuk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99ster Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 [quote name='BOD2' post='16686' date='Jun 13 2007, 09:35 AM']I'm no "vintage geek" lol, but shouldn't the "Custom Contour Body" transfer be placed further to the right, rather than tight up against the rest of the writing ? Is this a fake ? Difficult to say exactly what it is from just the one picture but that picture does seem to throw up several questions which suggest that something's not right. If it's an aftermarket decal that's been put on then you have to ask if it's a Fender at all ?[/quote] Yes - the "Custom Contour Body" transfer should be placed further to the right (& it looks a bit wonky!) - & it's missing the 'PAT PENDING' transfer altogether... The decal is altogether a bit of a 'bodge' job. So good question BOD2 - is it a Fender at all? Myself I wouldn't buy it because of the stickers on the body... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99ster Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 [quote name='dlloyd' post='16701' date='Jun 13 2007, 09:58 AM']Yep, there's this one... [url="http://www.amazon.com/Fender-Bass-Illustrated-History/dp/0634026402"]http://www.amazon.com/Fender-Bass-Illustra...y/dp/0634026402[/url] I have a copy and, while I'm no vintage Fender geek, it's a great and insightful read. I'd pass on this bass personally.[/quote] +1 on that - a great book... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99ster Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 [quote name='dlloyd' post='16705' date='Jun 13 2007, 10:00 AM']The one that I posted is supposed to be a '66 if that makes any difference...[/quote] I'd say that was a 64 neck (size of 'trade mark' lettering & detached 'offset contour' logo) with modern machine heads (66 would maybe have Klusons - more likely paddle tuners).... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 Isn't there supposed to be a skunk stripe on the back of the neck on these things? Also there seems to be a difference to the fading on the back of the neck close to the neck pocket, like the neck was originally on another body. Add to that there's absolutely no sign of the Ricky he claims he's sold in his feedback, and I'd stick well clear. [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320126121450&indexURL=3&photoDisplayType=2#ebayphotohosting"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...bayphotohosting[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muppet Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 I think this is a Japanese 60s reissue. The tuners (especially the posts), bridge and the diagonal earthing strap from bridge to bridge pickup make me thing this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99ster Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 [quote name='Musky' post='16729' date='Jun 13 2007, 10:54 AM']Isn't there supposed to be a skunk stripe on the back of the neck on these things? Also there seems to be a difference to the fading on the back of the neck close to the neck pocket, like the neck was originally on another body. Add to that there's absolutely no sign of the Ricky he claims he's sold in his feedback, and I'd stick well clear. [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320126121450&indexURL=3&photoDisplayType=2#ebayphotohosting"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...bayphotohosting[/url][/quote] Skunk stripe? Not a on a rosewood finger board Fender. You're maybe thinking of a solid maple neck/board - when the truss-rod is added from behind... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muppet Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 [quote name='99ster' post='16880' date='Jun 13 2007, 02:07 PM']Skunk stripe? Not a on a rosewood finger board Fender.[/quote] Yes on a [i]Mexican[/i] rosewood fingerboard Fender. I had one on a Mexican Jazz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
99ster Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 [quote name='Muppet' post='16889' date='Jun 13 2007, 02:15 PM']Yes on a [i]Mexican[/i] rosewood fingerboard Fender. I had one on a Mexican Jazz.[/quote] Well I never... Thanks for the extra info Muppet! I stand corrected! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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