So What

[lobematt]

Hey everyone,

Just wondering, when your playing So What, what else can you play other than D Dorian to keep the improv/walking lines interesting?

Thanks in advance!

[JakeBrownBass]

Check Scotts lesson for a starting point

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kvwTzPRoUk

[Bilbo]

Dorian minor, passing notes and chromatics. Then there is dynamics, rhythmic and melodic interplay with the soloist or with the other accompanists, play double time or half time, playing three against four and six against 4, playing lines that resolve in the wrong place (too early or two late), playing off beats in your walking lines, stopping playing and letting the soloist improvise alone or with the drummer.... all of which requires the cooperation of the rest of the ensemble.

The options are pretty much infinite.

[Major-Minor]

Session 33 in my Bass Boot Camp series covers this in some depth. However, I've just discovered that the written examples and the audio examples are not currently downloadable. I've sent a message to the Moderator in the hope he will get this fixed !

The Major

[Faithless]

All good advice, but make sure you have a [i]thorough [/i]understanding of harmony and that you can really walk the line well harmonic-wise, BEFORE you dip into any sort of rhythmic bits.
It's just one big mistake to start playing triplets, six'es against fours and using pedal technique or anything like that before you know your harmonic stuff, man.

easy
Laimis

Edited December 5, 2011 by Faithless

[lobematt]

Thanks for the tips. Major, I looked at your lesson an it looks like good stuff. Would you mind emailing over the files attached with the lesson?

[Mike]

[quote name='Bilbo' timestamp='1323086243' post='1458989']
Dorian minor, passing notes and chromatics. Then there is dynamics, rhythmic and melodic interplay with the soloist or with the other accompanists, play double time or half time, playing three against four and six against 4, playing lines that resolve in the wrong place (too early or two late), playing off beats in your walking lines, stopping playing and letting the soloist improvise alone or with the drummer.... all of which requires the cooperation of the rest of the ensemble.

The options are pretty much infinite.
[/quote]

Quoted for truth!! Excellent ideas to keep things interesting, I am probably guilty of just straight walking in 4 too much.

[Major-Minor]

[quote name='lobematt' timestamp='1323094148' post='1459135']
Thanks for the tips. Major, I looked at your lesson an it looks like good stuff. Would you mind emailing over the files attached with the lesson?
[/quote]
I'm happy to do that. PM me with your email address.

[devinebass]

Hey Lobematt,

I've done three separate tutorials about soloing over static minor chords...

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gn1gaK5PkoE

Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8mcRHI0WYM


Ez,

Scott

http://www.scottsbasslessons.com

[devinebass]

Here's part 3...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11o2x67npkQ

Ez man,

Scott.

http://www.scottsbasslessons.com
http://www.scottdevinemusic.com

[lobematt]

Cheers for that scott, I'll check them out tonight PM coming your way Major!

[lobematt]

[quote name='devinebass' timestamp='1323207904' post='1460686']
Here's part 3...

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11o2x67npkQ[/media]

Ez man,

Scott.

[url="http://www.scottsbasslessons.com"]http://www.scottsbasslessons.com[/url]
[url="http://www.scottdevinemusic.com"]http://www.scottdevinemusic.com[/url]
[/quote]

Hey Scott, thanks for them lessons I'm finding them really helpful, especially grouping So What into four bar sequences of ii-V's is helping me to not got as lost counting through all the solos!

Just a quick question, how do you know which melodic minor scales to apply to which chords?

Thanks!

[paul_5]

Those are brilliant tutorials, Scott - loving the approach and the pace that you've got. Have you considered taking the glove off to make it easier for stoodents to see your fingers in a bit more detail though? Just a thought.

[louisthebass]

[quote name='paul_5' timestamp='1332549971' post='1590077']
Those are brilliant tutorials, Scott - loving the approach and the pace that you've got. Have you considered taking the glove off to make it easier for stoodents to see your fingers in a bit more detail though? Just a thought.
[/quote]

Hi Paul,
Not sure if you're aware of this?:

[url="http://scottsbasslessons.com/odds-and-sods/the-gloves"]http://scottsbasslessons.com/odds-and-sods/the-gloves[/url]

[paul_5]

[quote name='louisthebass' timestamp='1332574124' post='1590139']
Hi Paul,
Not sure if you're aware of this?:

[url="http://scottsbasslessons.com/odds-and-sods/the-gloves"]http://scottsbassles...sods/the-gloves[/url]
[/quote]
No, wasn't aware of this. Having read the page I have even more respect for Scott and the good work he does.

Kudos to you Mr Devine.

[Jazzjames]

The best thing you can possibly do is to transcribe what Paul Chambers does on the original, and when you've worked out what he's got going on, why not try Ron Carter's lines on the same piece from some of the 60s Miles recordings, like My Funny Valentine/Four & More ('64 concert).

You'll see all the stuff above in those basslines, but working it out from the recordings will be more beneficial because you're seeing it in the context of how they are accompanying the soloist and interacting with the rest of the band.

[littlegreenman]

A little off-topic from the OP, but cheers for the links to SBL. As a Guitarist turned n00by Bass Player, I'm already pretty au-fait with harmony/melody structure but the technique lessons from Scott are excellent. Just watched the "rake/ rest stroke" one, and in 10 minutes my technique has improved! Niceness

Edited March 28, 2012 by littlegreenman