Count Bassy Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 I posted a question on this a few days ago but that thread sank without trace, so I'll try again. I received my Promethean a few days ago and found that the power stage clipping LED is coming on with the master volume at about 10 O-clock, despite the input clipping indicator not coming on. Scouring the internet it seems that this is a common 'Feature'. What I am also finding though, is that almost as soon as it starts to clip each note I play starts with a very sharp click, which sounds almost as if its originating in the speaker itself (Couldn't swear to this). Is this also a 'feature' or does it indicate a faulty unit which needs returning? For an amp combo that's meant to be 250 watts this clicking means its usable volume is little more than my old marshal B65 combo (65 watts), which is obviously an expensive disappointing. Your comments would be much appreciated as if it does need returning then the sooner the better. I haven't spoken to the supplier yet, but thought I'd get your thoughts first. Many thanks in advance, Clive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Hmm... mine doesn't do it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 ...can you force the input clip light on by cranking the input gain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count Bassy Posted December 16, 2011 Author Share Posted December 16, 2011 [quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1323984131' post='1469614'] ...can you force the input clip light on by cranking the input gain? [/quote] Yes, If I turn the gain up. If the output clipped when the input clipped I'd understand it. IF the output clipped at 9 I'd understand it, but this clipping at 3 -4 ish, with the input not clipping at all. Clive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count Bassy Posted December 16, 2011 Author Share Posted December 16, 2011 Thanks for your thoughts chaps. Spoke to Rockem Music and it's being collected on Monday to be returned to Ibanez/distributor to be looked at, so full marks to 'Rockem' so far - not a quibble. I must say that I'm happy that I've made the right decision there. Also gleaned from them that this model is being discontinued from March, but they didn't know what was coming next. (I'll be spitting if its a 1x12 !!) Prometheans are obviously popular, if rare. They said that they'd had three in and they'd all gone in 24 hours! Thanks again, The count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Cool... that's good to know. All I would add is.. if I set the input gain to the clipping threshold, and the master to 10 o'clock, it would be LOUD...! Is yours loud, too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count Bassy Posted December 18, 2011 Author Share Posted December 18, 2011 [quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1324051884' post='1470338'] Cool... that's good to know. All I would add is.. if I set the input gain to the clipping threshold, and the master to 10 o'clock, it would be LOUD...! Is yours loud, too? [/quote] Well, it's slightly louder than my Marshall B65 combo (65 watts) at the point where it becomes unusable due to the 'clicking'. I know that perceived volume as a function of watts depends on many factors, but all the same I would have expected significantly more volume from 250 watts (its stand alone/8 ohm rating) than from 65 Watts, and at over £500 I would expect it to deliver. From memory I suspect that a Roland Cube100/120 would be significantly louder. I really hope that it is faulty and that it comes back delivering the promise as I fundamentally like the unit, and it is compact. If this one isn't faulty and this is just how they are then this isn't the right combo for me and (IMHO) its not worth £515. I'll let you all know what transpires, though I guess that will now be in the New Year. Thanks for your interest folks. The Count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 [quote name='Count Bassy' timestamp='1324251562' post='1472333'] Well, it's slightly louder than my Marshall B65 combo (65 watts) at the point where it becomes unusable due to the 'clicking'. I know that perceived volume as a function of watts depends on many factors, but all the same I would have expected significantly more volume from 250 watts (its stand alone/8 ohm rating) than from 65 Watts, and at over £500 I would expect it to deliver. From memory I suspect that a Roland Cube100/120 would be significantly louder. I really hope that it is faulty and that it comes back delivering the promise as I fundamentally like the unit, and it is compact. If this one isn't faulty and this is just how they are then this isn't the right combo for me and (IMHO) its not worth £515. I'll let you all know what transpires, though I guess that will now be in the New Year. Thanks for your interest folks. The Count. [/quote] With the gains set to the above, mine is very loud, punchy and solid (within the limits of a box that size). Way more than I'd expect from another 65w combo. Something to try... when you're plugged in at the amp, give the plug a firm wiggle, enough to give what's going on on the other side a nudge. I had a problem with mine after I accidentally gave the jack a knock.. basically, it did something resulting in the output dropping, and the signal went lifeless, clicky and buzzy. Jiggling it around lined it all up again inside, fixing the problem. I took it to a tech who tightened it all up inside to stop it happening again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musicman20 Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 I wonder why its being discontinued? It must be a new model in the works.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sk8 Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 i'd guess a 112........... Unless they are majoring the 115 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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