Clarky Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Probably been asked a zillion times but I'll ask anyway. I want to use my ultra-clear Acoustic Image head for electric bass as well as DB (for which it excels). To that end I am looking for a pedal that sounds valve-y and can do a bit of grit but that also has a DI out. The latter seems to be the problem. The Catalinbread SFT sounds lovely but no DI. The VT Bass sounds lovely (nicer than the Sansamp BDDI in my view) but no DI. I know the VT Bass Deluxe has a DI but I don't need a whopping great pedal with a bunch of presets - am hoping for something smaller and more compact. Any suggestions, peeps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarky Posted December 16, 2011 Author Share Posted December 16, 2011 Addendum - maybe answer is to get an SFT or VT Bass and get a DI mod done? Does anyone know of anyone in UK who does this? Cheers Clarky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_Bass Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 DHA - VTI: [url="http://www.davehallamps.co.uk/page8.html"]http://www.davehallamps.co.uk/page8.html[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andydye Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Oo! The VT1-EQ-Bass Drive looks awesome for £150! [url="http://www.davehallamps.co.uk/page29.html"]http://www.davehallamps.co.uk/page29.html[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudewheresmybass Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 i know its pricey but the darkglass b7k would fit the bill [url="http://www.effectpowersupplies.com/darkglass-b7k-microtubes-bass-preampdi-pedal---free-delivery-1728-p.asp"]http://www.effectpowersupplies.com/darkglass-b7k-microtubes-bass-preampdi-pedal---free-delivery-1728-p.asp[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 DHA VT pedals. They are really valve like. The VT1 which I had really gave that warmth, roundness, and just about break-up that valves have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarky Posted December 16, 2011 Author Share Posted December 16, 2011 [quote name='dudewheresmybass' timestamp='1324034423' post='1469974'] i know its pricey but the darkglass b7k would fit the bill [url="http://www.effectpowersupplies.com/darkglass-b7k-microtubes-bass-preampdi-pedal---free-delivery-1728-p.asp"]http://www.effectpow...very-1728-p.asp[/url] [/quote]I watched the demo of this and it sounded awesome but its hellish expensive, unfortunately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarky Posted December 16, 2011 Author Share Posted December 16, 2011 OK, so its DHA VT1 in the lead so far (features and price look good) .... any detractors or alternative suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Does it really have to be one pedal? Why not use a VT into a DI box? Feel free to borrow my VT3 (without DI) to experiment with over Xmas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarky Posted December 16, 2011 Author Share Posted December 16, 2011 Fair point Jack, was only really neatness and minimising signal chain that made me want a one-pedal solution. Thx for offer, mate, but next week is a mad-house and then I'm off snowboarding until the New Year, whoop whoop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_5 Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 (edited) Yup, Dave Hall stuff all the way. My VT2 EQ is a main-stay on the board of delights. also, I nominate "andydye" for special award, as his avatar just made me chuckle. Edited December 16, 2011 by paul_5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorick Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 (edited) How about the Behringer BDI21? I'll send mine down if you want to try it out. Nige Edited December 16, 2011 by yorick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andydye Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 Thanks [url="http://basschat.co.uk/user/12256-paul-5/"][color="#282828"]paul_5[/color][/url]! The Behringer looks pretty sweet for £32 (on amazon)! It's not actually valve though, it's emulated...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorick Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 [quote name='andydye' timestamp='1324038843' post='1470060'] Thanks [url="http://basschat.co.uk/user/12256-paul-5/"][color=#282828]paul_5[/color][/url]! The Behringer looks pretty sweet for £32 (on amazon)! It's not actually valve though, it's emulated...? [/quote] The Behringer is emulated. Does a good job as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarky Posted December 16, 2011 Author Share Posted December 16, 2011 Thx for the offer Nige! I think I might go for a Catalinbread SFT and a DI box, still pondering. Take a look at these vids, I think this pedal sounds truly awsome [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EILrxBwxqmk&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EILrxBwxqmk&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL[/url] [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_VjBTsx4gg"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_VjBTsx4gg[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichF Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 (edited) I was a DHA user - very happy - had a VT2, which has a DI, was too big for my board, but brilliant. i still have a DHA EQ-DI which is great. I am moving now to an SFX micro red dragon for saturation type effect but at a 1/10th of the footprint. For me emulation is not a bad thing in the context of live where it's not under hi-fi scrutiny. Also depends on how much "break up"/grit you are looking for. Maybe more critical in recording but you may then get the chance to use other FX/plug ins? Smallish point but watch out for power supply issues, again depends on your board and space and all the rest but I found DHA pedals REALLY benefit from using the appropriate separate power supply (they are positive tip and there are issues with daisy chaining). This is not a point against Dave's pedals just not quite as easy as daisy chaining a 9Vdc negative tip. Edited December 16, 2011 by RichF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_5 Posted December 16, 2011 Share Posted December 16, 2011 I bought mine off Rich, and am happy to concur that it is, in fact, brilliant! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassmachine2112 Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 hiho,try out behringer bdi21,great buy. Get one s/h. true bypass so you have 2 sounds at your feet,DI into PA and forget about amp,you can.If your amp goes down,your still in the PA. I,ve had mine for years and would not leave the house without it. I got it to try out the sansamp thing without spending loads to see if I liked it with the view of getting a sansamp .It,s done the job and I haven,t got round to getting one yet. I,ve had it for years now and got it s/h and it,s still going strong. Hartke vxl is good to but I prefer the simplicity of the bdi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartelby Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Clarky' timestamp='1324036090' post='1470003'] OK, so its DHA VT1 in the lead so far (features and price look good) .... any detractors or alternative suggestions? [/quote] I loved the sound of my VT2, but found it to be a tad noisy. So I sold it. Now on the look out for another DI. So far the contenders are a cheap(-ish) and cheerful MXR or the Darkglass. Edited December 17, 2011 by bartelby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molan Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Why go for 'valve sounding' when you can get one with a real valve in it Use what the pros use: A-Designs Reddi - expensive but supposed to be the best there is! I know a serious touring pro & session musician who swears by these There's lots of info about them online but here's the first video review I found: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejEmNT_pvU0 Of course, you know who's going to be stocking these soon. . . Our very own Borntobemild from BassGear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarky Posted December 17, 2011 Author Share Posted December 17, 2011 Well, much as I would like to be giving Phil more biz, I'm too amateur hour to justify a £630 valve DI!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichF Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 (edited) was just going to say, if your budget's no option, then there are plenty premier products. The one's we are talking about are £100-200. What is the budget? Edited December 17, 2011 by RichF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krysh Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 (edited) if you want valve sound, buy valve: +1 for dave hall if budget is a question: [url="http://www.davehallamps.co.uk/page29.html"]http://www.davehalla....uk/page29.html[/url] works also great as a preamp. if budget is no question and you need 2 tube channels with very small space: [url="http://www.testberichte.de/p/gp-lightstone-tests/tube-bass-twister-testbericht.html"]http://www.testberic...estbericht.html[/url] I use both with an acoustic image focus sa and S.A.D. custom cabinets on 4 and 5-strings and they work great. Edited December 17, 2011 by the_krysh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarky Posted December 17, 2011 Author Share Posted December 17, 2011 [quote name='RichF' timestamp='1324133074' post='1471161'] was just going to say, if your budget's no option, then there are plenty premier products. The one's we are talking about are £100-200. What is the budget? [/quote] Was thinking £100-200. Still undecided between SFT or VT bass plus separate DI (I see Dave Hall does a DI for a decent price of £42) or an all-in pedal like a VT-EQ-Drive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK Jale Posted December 17, 2011 Share Posted December 17, 2011 Have you heard of the Made By Mike SFT clone? He might be able to do a custom w/DI. I've never tried one, but I'd be interested to hear any reports... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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