Norris Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 [quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1324543849' post='1475299'] I think in pub-covers-land, think a window of couple of weeks either-side of the date is reasonable. Anything more than that is stretching it a bit. [/quote] ^This^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrdreadful Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Hm... barrowload of cash, guaranteed capacity crowd every gig, own sound guy, own roadies, free dinner, free beer, unlimited gear budget... Yep, those are about the circumstances in which I'd allow a venue to tell me what to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icastle Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 [quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1324559219' post='1475562'] And I kind of bulk at them declaring that they have 'groomed' us...!!!! [/quote] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 In my punk covers band, we try to only play in the same town every 3 months or so, keep the crowd keen - we hope! With things like this, I think it`s up to the venues to argue it out/promote the best night, and just let the bands get on and play. It`s nice to show loyalty to venues that have put you on in the past, but also, it`s good to see other venues trying to start up, and keep their business afloat. If there was another punk covers band playing down the road from us, chances are we`d go and watch them, rather than play a gig ourselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTUK Posted December 22, 2011 Author Share Posted December 22, 2011 I find it strange that the venue is listening to the pubs..but there is a tie-up I can't really elaborate on, so the venue has to heed the pubs opinions...even though it might sound somewhat deterimental to their new venture. We are conscious of playing the same town too often which is why we generally only play one pub per town. The nearest other regular date we currently do is a village about 6 miles away and a town 10 miles away. We get about 3 gigs a year from those each... so maybe 9 in total in a region that might have 15-20 music venues. To give you a sense of the geography etc The venue is fine with our showings so far..and the numbers that have attended. It just seems to me that we will have to blow out the pub/pubs that are making this an issue. Or the venue will have to concentrate on out of town acts... and with that, it could mean the budget goes silly and/or little known acts...subjective... pull only a 100... which makes the venture dicier..???? But if it works out like that, I'll put the word out and come looking for a few of you guys..!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gareth Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 [quote name='wateroftyne' timestamp='1324541543' post='1475280'] On the theatre / art centre / ticket venue circuit it's common. On the pub scene, less so... there's a couple of 'music' pubs up here that politely ask you not to play at the pub over the road for a while either side of playing there. Depending on the circumstances, I think it's a reasonable request. [/quote] +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrenleepoole Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Running a band is as much a business as running a pub. End of. By all means work with venues to keep them sweet, but remind them that you're a business too and need to make money when you're not gracing their venue etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gareth Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 [quote name='derrenleepoole' timestamp='1324567060' post='1475701'] Running a band is as much a business as running a pub. End of. By all means work with venues to keep them sweet, but remind them that you're a business too and need to make money when you're not gracing their venue etc... [/quote] Believe me running a pub is in all ways much tougher than running a band - assuming we are talking non-pro, semi-pro type bands In todays tough economy I really feel for publicans - it must be so hard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Dave Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 It's been tried on and we stamped on it in no uncertain terms - we actually refused to play at a venue because they wanted to pull that stunt. My own argument with them was a simple one - ' fair enough , you pay me fifty notes to sit at home watching TV and I won't play in your town that night.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_skezz Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 Not a problem for me...the pub owners are usually begging us to go and play elsewhere... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrenleepoole Posted December 22, 2011 Share Posted December 22, 2011 [quote name='gareth' timestamp='1324567663' post='1475716'] Believe me running a pub is in all ways much tougher than running a band - assuming we are talking non-pro, semi-pro type bands In todays tough economy I really feel for publicans - it must be so hard [/quote] I know, I design signs for the pub industry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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