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[dlloyd]

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Edited January 13, 2009 by dlloyd

[urb]

DLloyd - great work fella - I'm sure loads of people will find this useful - I know most of this stuff but the term 'enharmonic' was definitely new to me - but I've encountered this way of writing both chords and notes - so it's great to have a refresher reference around for me too! By all means keep adding to this - anyone that is - and if some kindly mod can 'pin' it that would be great.

Nice one

Mike

[leonshelley01]

Great work! Useful for beginners and more experienced players as well.

[mcgraham]

[quote]I'm thinking that I might delete references to all of the augmented and diminished intervals except the fourths and fifths, and diminished seventh and augmented second and leave all the rest just as a post-script reminder that all major/minor intervals can also be augmented and diminished.[/quote]

I was going to suggest exactly that. It would still be understandable and would reduce the length.

You've done a really good job here dlloyd, particularly with the organisation. Knowing it is one thing, knowing how to present it such that it is possible for a relative theory newbie to learn is another, and I think you've managed to tackle that issue.

I wonder if there's any other threads we could create that could serve as useful tutorials?

Mark

[BigBeefChief]

Yeah, good work.

I'm surprised by the amount of this I actually know. Reassuring that I have actually learnt something! Its good to see it written like this to fill in some gaps though, and also put some order to the ideas I have picked up.

Cheers.

[Higgie]

[quote name='dlloyd' post='169272' date='Apr 3 2008, 04:51 PM'][size=2][b]Interval inversions[/b][/size]
1. The “quantity” of an interval and its inversion always add to nine:

[list]
[*]3 + 6 = 9
[*]2 + 7 = 9
[/list]

2. If the “quality” of an interval is major, its [b]interval[/b] is minor. If the “quality” of an interval is minor, its inversion is major[/quote]

Hey, great work on the theory posts, a great little refresher for me!!

I think I spotted a mistake, which I have marked in bold. Should it say inversion?

Again, great work - Really easy to read, and should help out beginners immensely. Good job.

Cheers,
James.

Edited April 11, 2008 by Higgie

[chris_b]

If this is intended as a starter for bass players I would stick to the bass clef and not introduce the treble clef.

[Higgie]

On the contrary - introducing both at the same time will save confusion later on IMO. Being able to read treble too is just as important as reading bass in the long run, so I'd keep it where it is.

[Tengu]

Absolutely fantastic thread, and I am also surprised by how much of this that I know.

Can't help thinking that it would eventually be better posted in the wiki, allowing for a nice menu for those that don't want to read the whole thing from the beginning.

[Higgie]

[quote name='dlloyd' post='174606' date='Apr 11 2008, 03:14 PM']Good catch! I've edited it now.[/quote]

Glad to be of service

Keep up the good work.

[jakenewmanbass]

When I lived in t'North one of the teaching jobs I had was at The Arts Centre in Liverpool. I taught bass at all levels and introductory theory to the foundation classes. The material was accredited by EDExel the body responsible for ensuring that what is taught in that type of establishment is up to par.
So now I've qualified my opinion:
That guide you have written is publishable, not only does it cover all that needs to be known in grasping foundation theory(which in some ways is the most important stage, hence the title foundation) But further and in my view more importantly its readable, engaging and really easy to understand. The reason, IMO is that, it's really well written. Clarity in such things is a rare gift and you my friend have it in spades.
Brilliant thanks
Jake

Edited April 13, 2008 by jakesbass

[d-basser]

this stuff is great, this combined with my lessons from Mark (7string) mean I may finally get a grasp on theory, I need to give this a few read and my full attention but it is all great so far.

[urb]

I'll say this once again - this an invaluable, very well written thread for anyone and everyone (and great for BC Google search results too = more traffic) could a kindly fellow mod please 'pin' it - I think it's a great resource.

Thanks

Mike

[Kirky]

This is excellent stuff. I'm looking forward to your section on compound time. Whilst I understand it myself, I've never been very successful at explaining it to anyone else - not using words anyhow!

[chardbass]

+1 on the positive comments.

It's one thing to know all these facts. The tricky part- and I'm sure many of us who have taught will agree- is collating it, making it easy to understand and above all else, getting the chronology right.

Nice one.

[BassMunkee]

Brilliant.
Thank you for this.

[dlloyd]

I'm going to rework this in the coming weeks to improve it.

[The Funk]

Excellent. Looking forward to it.

[dlloyd]

[quote name='The Funk' post='291646' date='Sep 25 2008, 11:47 AM']Excellent. Looking forward to it.[/quote]

I'm specifically thinking of framing it in terms of the LCM popular music theory syllabus (which I've looked at a couple of times now and think is excellent), but aimed particularly at bass players.

[The Funk]

That's great. I know I'd have to wait my turn until you've run through a few more of the basics but I'd love to read a section on reharmonization and specifically some of the most common chord substitutions.

[bnt]

I didn't see this thread back in April, for some reason - probably university. Looks pretty impressive so far!

If I were to make a suggestion, it would be for a "Lesson 0" that explains the very basics of harmony, starting with ratios of frequencies. What an octave is (2:1), why the major fifth is so important (3:2), why inversions work e.g. fifth (3:2) -> fourth (2:3 x2 = 4:3). On a guitar or bass it's easier to visualise the fundamentals of harmony, because it relates to the physical lengths of a vibrating string. The Cycle of Fifths has 12 steps, which led to various 12-tone scales, not all of which worked well, until the introduction of equal temperament.

[saibuster]

this is by far the easiest to understand explanation of basic music theory i've came across, thank you very much for this !!!! (Turning on my printer... )

Can we have requests here? practical application of the cycle of fifth...

and again, thank you very much!!

[leeboyce]

I've learnt soooo soo much reading this today.

I've read alot it before in other books but it seemed so much clearer here!

Cheers!

[budget bassist]

Sorry, am i the only one wondering why everything in the first post has been edited out?

[Johnebass]

+1

[quote name='budget bassist' post='351393' date='Dec 11 2008, 12:38 AM']Sorry, am i the only one wondering why everything in the first post has been edited out?[/quote]