musophilr Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 Getting a bass line together for [i]Its a long way to the top[/i]. On the recording I've been listening to the bass is barely in there at all. It's all rhythm guitar & vocal. Having heard other AC/DC recordings which also appear not to have much bass in, I wonder if it really matters what you play so long as your rhythm works and your notes don't contradict anything the guitars are doing. How would the punters know if you're not playing what's on the record if they've never heard the bass on the record for themselves? Quote
chrismuzz Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 There are quite a few songs I play in my cover band where I don't follow the original bassline to the letter. If it's close enough and compliments the song that's usually enough. If anyone picks you up on it just say you're altering it to prevent copyright infringement Quote
pietruszka Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 [quote name='musophilr' timestamp='1327078386' post='1506156'] Getting a bass line together for [i]Its a long way to the top[/i]. On the recording I've been listening to the bass is barely in there at all. It's all rhythm guitar & vocal. Having heard other AC/DC recordings which also appear not to have much bass in, I wonder if it really matters what you play so long as your rhythm works and your notes don't contradict anything the guitars are doing. How would the punters know if you're not playing what's on the record if they've never heard the bass on the record for themselves? [/quote] It doesnt really matter, IMHO, I play wrong notes all the time and no one really notices. The crowd won't notice unless its something major! If the crowd don't notice whats on the record they won't notice what you play live on it. I did 'Walk this way' and to be honest I can bearly make out what the bass is doing on the record, its soo quiet and undefined to my ears. So I make something up to fit, even the singer guitarist didn't know it was different to the record. As for mistakes? If you can mask them well and recover then you're sorted. Again all in my opinion. Dan Quote
icastle Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 Unless you're playing in a tribute band then it's extremely unlikely that the audience will even notice, let alone comment, if you change a bass line. As long as it stays in keeping with the tune and you don't play horribly duff notes then you'll get away with it. I was listening to the radio the other day and heard a familiar tune that I couldn't quite put my finger on... then I realised it was something I'd been playing in my covers band for the last three years without ever having heard the original... Quote
leftyhook Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 (edited) [quote name='pietruszka' timestamp='1327078781' post='1506163'] It doesnt really matter, IMHO, I play wrong notes all the time and no one really notices. The crowd won't notice unless its something major! If the crowd don't notice whats on the record they won't notice what you play live on it. I did 'Walk this way' and to be honest I can bearly make out what the bass is doing on the record, its soo quiet and undefined to my ears. So I make something up to fit, even the singer guitarist didn't know it was different to the record. As for mistakes? If you can mask them well and recover then you're sorted. Again all in my opinion. Dan [/quote] Wrong notes? I think you mean 'alternative' notes! AC/DC, it's mostly roots anyway. Edited January 20, 2012 by leftyhook Quote
paul_5 Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 I've played nothing under some aC/DC songs, nobody noticed. Quote
paul_5 Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 [quote name='leftyhook' timestamp='1327079695' post='1506174'] Wrong notes? I think you mean 'alternative' notes! [/quote] Surely that should be "interesting choices"... Quote
Highfox Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 (edited) Go see them live and the rythmn section is VERY tight and can be heard and felt. Edited January 20, 2012 by Highfox Quote
musophilr Posted January 20, 2012 Author Posted January 20, 2012 [quote name='paul_5' timestamp='1327079779' post='1506179'] Surely that should be "interesting choices"... [/quote] a.k.a. jazz ? Quote
musophilr Posted January 20, 2012 Author Posted January 20, 2012 [quote name='Highfox' timestamp='1327080021' post='1506183'] Go see them live and the rythmn section is VERY tight and can be heard. [/quote] sounds like I'll be OK unless playing to someone who's been to see them live then. Quote
Highfox Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 [quote name='musophilr' timestamp='1327080186' post='1506189'] sounds like I'll be OK unless playing to someone who's been to see them live then. [/quote] That shouldn't be a problem hopefully Just thought I'd mention how powerful they are live. Quote
tombboy Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 [quote name='Highfox' timestamp='1327080670' post='1506199'] That shouldn't be a problem hopefully Just thought I'd mention how powerful they are live. [/quote] Yup..... STILL haven't recovered fully from front row at Hammersmith in 2003!! Quote
StraightSix Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 If you're worried about it, try EQing your listening track with a graphic or parametric to lift out the bass line a little. If you're [i]really[/i] worried, TAB here: [url="http://www.songsterr.com/a/wsa/ac-dc-its-a-long-way-to-the-top-bass-tab-s61897t5"]http://www.songsterr.com/a/wsa/ac-dc-its-a-long-way-to-the-top-bass-tab-s61897t5[/url] Quote
andy67 Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 Right! Going against the grain here! Drums and bass are the most important factors within AC/DC. They allow Angus, Malcolm and Brian to do their stuff. Listen to Phil on drums, although it sounds simple, he plays a lot off the beat and the bass has to match this. It is not an easy job being the bass player for AC/DC because you have to nail it, stay out of the way of Angus, Malcolm and Brian while being absolutely and completely consistent! Do it badly at your peril! Everyone knows AC/DC and demand it be played properly. its just rock n roll mate! andy Quote
pietruszka Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 [quote name='leftyhook' timestamp='1327079695' post='1506174'] Wrong notes? I think you mean 'alternative' notes! [/quote] Yes!!!! Im using that at tonights gig! Dan Quote
OliverBlackman Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 the rhythm section of any rock band [b]HAS[/b] to be killer if its going to work. When i play AC/DC (one of my favourite bands) the trick is to keep it as simple as possible on the bass. Its all about the guitarists showing off. Quote
arthurhenry Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 [quote name='andy67' timestamp='1327082092' post='1506236'] Right! Going against the grain here! Drums and bass are the most important factors within AC/DC. They allow Angus, Malcolm and Brian to do their stuff. Listen to Phil on drums, although it sounds simple, he plays a lot off the beat and the bass has to match this. It is not an easy job being the bass player for AC/DC because you have to nail it, stay out of the way of Angus, Malcolm and Brian while being absolutely and completely consistent! Do it badly at your peril! Everyone knows AC/DC and demand it be played properly. its just rock n roll mate! andy [/quote] Entirely correct! Anyone who puts an AC/DC tribute band together and immeadiately seeks out Angus and Bon/Brian thinking they can get any old rhythm section to back them up has got it very wrong indeed! Quote
warwickhunt Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 Keep this among friends but I've not properly fretted a note in 5 years; muted the strings and played a dull thunk in time with the required notes... no body has noticed yet! Quote
Lozz196 Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 Yep, it requires discipline to just sit back, and keep right out of the way of the guitars/vocs, yet still remain tight to the beat. Without that tightness, AC/DC wouldn`t be the band they are. Must admit, whenever I`ve been playing along to them, unless I can clearly hear the bassline, I keep to root notes, and make sure I maintain a steady rhythm. Quote
Blademan_98 Posted January 20, 2012 Posted January 20, 2012 and use plenty of passing notes, just to fill in, you understand Quote
leschirons Posted January 21, 2012 Posted January 21, 2012 You can cover up any duff bits with some fast slapping. That should work Quote
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