bubinga5 Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Kudos for Jens for being so composed... it would really piss me off.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARyVweFJH5A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throwoff Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Jens is a cool dude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crez5150 Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 isn't t the ultimate accolade.... a chinese company copying your design? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris2112 Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 I'm surprised he didn't strangle that slimy little toad of a salesman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgraham Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Flippin heck, Jens is a legend. I want to buy one of his basses just to show how much I admire the resolve there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musicman20 Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 He played that totally cool. Imitation is the best form of flattery, BUT this is a business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waynepunkdude Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 [quote name='Musicman20' timestamp='1327441916' post='1511404'] He played that totally cool. Imitation is the best form of flattery, BUT this is a business. [/quote] Does that mean Jens was flattering the German press? That was very good, I'm not a fan of a lot of his stuff but he dares to be different, I respect that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musicman20 Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 (edited) [quote name='waynepunkdude' timestamp='1327442561' post='1511420'] Does that mean Jens was flattering the German press? That was very good, I'm not a fan of a lot of his stuff but he dares to be different, I respect that. [/quote] Haha...well, its kinda cool that anyone would copy something you do/make/etc (it obviously means its quite good!), but obviously this is different. Edited January 24, 2012 by Musicman20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Horton Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 That was awesome I want to see the salesman's face when he realises who he was talking to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc2009 Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 He plays it well, and seems like a seriously cool guy to boot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crez5150 Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 There is a slight glint of 'I want to rip your face off' in his eye though..... which I quite like ;o) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gust0o Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Hi, welcome to the Trade Tang stand... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB3000S Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Can't see them as competing for the same customers as Jens, however it's seriously uncool anyway. Who buys them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve-soar Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 [quote name='Gust0o' timestamp='1327443524' post='1511455'] Hi, welcome to the Trade Tang stand... [/quote]"We can also supply you with human organs, here, have a brochure". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Foxen Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 "You really think is good design? We copied of website making fun of silly looking basses [openes catalogue page showing mostly really shiny Wishbass tributes and that one made to look like a wang]." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waynepunkdude Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 I asked about him making me a Simpsons bass but he only had one licence :~( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waynepunkdude Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 [quote name='Johnston' timestamp='1327446290' post='1511531'] So Lakeland, Shuker etc etc etc are scumbags then? [/quote] Very good point, seems it's OK to rip off Fender as long as it's a Western country but as soon as the Chinese do it, it's a different story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waynepunkdude Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 [quote name='Johnston' timestamp='1327446738' post='1511542'] Thats exactly what pisses me off. If he was that worried he would have the designs protected. Then he could have done a John Hall and walked into NAMM with cease and desist letters and had the law to back him up. Even the organisers. Those instruments would not be allowed on U.S or European soil with the right protections. The fact he didn't and played some sort of drama class instead makes me think he knows fine rightly whats going on. [/quote] Reckon those Chinese guys would make me a Simpsons bass? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LukeFRC Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 [quote name='waynepunkdude' timestamp='1327446861' post='1511544'] Reckon those Chinese guys would make me a Simpsons bass? [/quote] seen the credits of the simpsons? ask the right people and the team that draws the real programme could paint your bass for you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gust0o Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 I counterfeited a Chinese curry tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBollock Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Are there any hugely popular Guitar/Bass designs that haven't been copied? It's bound to happen. I didn't get the impression that he was massively annoyed about it and just seemed to take advantage of the situation to poke some fun at the people copying his designs. I think, by the end, he looked a little angry just because of the slimy way the sales person conducted himself. And, for that, I don't blame him. That's the feeling I got from watching that clip anyway. Though, I am assuming that he didn't go to that show purely to expose them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 [quote name='waynepunkdude' timestamp='1327446861' post='1511544'] Reckon those Chinese guys would make me a Simpsons bass? [/quote] The Korean guys might. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 I believe the copyright/trademark protection on Fender has expired? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muttley Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 FTR, you can't copyright an object. Copyright exists in the [i]drawings[/i] for that object, as it does in any other creative work. It doesn't matter what's on the drawing, original or not. Therefore, if a Chinese copyist company created Engineering drawings of a Ritter (or any other) bass then the Chinese company would own the copyright to that drawing. Sounds odd, I know, but that's how it works. A similar analogy is the copyright protection afforded to [i]recordings[/i] of cover versions of songs. Products are protected by [url="http://www.ipo.gov.uk/types/design/d-about/d-designright/d-designright-get.htm"]Design Right[/url]. This works in a similar way to copyright but it is separate IP. AFAIK, Design Right is a fairly recent development. Of course, this only applies if the Chinese recognise international laws on the protection of IP. I'm not sure about that bit. HTH . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simwells Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Fender have never really attempted to protect their designs and as mentioned on the previous post it's complicated to do. Fender didn't do anything for long enough that especially due to being the first to make a lot of the instruments their designs became ubiquitous with just an electric guitar or bass rather than to a specific brand. If you ask someone who knows literally nothing about guitars to draw an electric guitar they'll probably draw a strat or something very close. Once it's become that common knowledge it's pretty well impossible to protect. I'm also unaware of exactly what IP protection consists of in China, other than the old copyright means I have the right to copy correct?! In all seriousness there are laws in place for copyright etc but they're generally ignored by the majority of manufacturers anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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