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Bass Strings for Fender Jazz 5 string - Problems with Floppy B


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IMO/IME - a heavier gauge string does not necessarily give a great tone, though it may cure the "floppy" string problem. The bigger gauge can makes matters worse in the sense that (unless the string is tapered at both ends) getting a decent break over the nut and the bridge saddle becomes more difficult, which means string isn't vibrating as it should.
A stiffer string with lower gauge (eg. a 125 lo-rider which I've been using) seems to solve both the "floppyness" without causing a "choke" at the bridge/nut, and therefore gives a consistently good B string tone.
FWIW - I was talking with Martin Petersen at the Gallery a few months back, and he was of the same opinion, which might lend more weight to my argument ;)

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[quote name='Soliloquy' timestamp='1328378747' post='1526253']
A 145 B string, wow !

You could maybe use it as a tow rope if you don't like the sound of it I guess :D.

I had a US Fender Jazz 5 a couple of years ago. It was a really nice bass, no problems with the B string tension. I used to use DR Low riders on it. They have a hex core though, as others have pointed out.
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I hope that the .145 isn't too big alright, as someone coming from a guitar background I may have bitten off more than I can chew :lol:

I'll try out a set of hexcore's after this set die, they seem to be a good option.

[quote name='Gwilym' timestamp='1328381342' post='1526296']
IMO/IME - a heavier gauge string does not necessarily give a great tone, though it may cure the "floppy" string problem. The bigger gauge can makes matters worse in the sense that (unless the string is tapered at both ends) getting a decent break over the nut and the bridge saddle becomes more difficult, which means string isn't vibrating as it should.
A stiffer string with lower gauge (eg. a 125 lo-rider which I've been using) seems to solve both the "floppyness" without causing a "choke" at the bridge/nut, and therefore gives a consistently good B string tone.
FWIW - I was talking with Martin Petersen at the Gallery a few months back, and he was of the same opinion, which might lend more weight to my argument ;)
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Thanks for the info. Are the Lo-riders tapered at the bridge? A friend of mine is a big fan of DR Hi beams so I think the lo riders will be on the cards.

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[quote name='margusalviste' timestamp='1328564290' post='1529295']
Try Elixirs! :) They have nice tension although they sound a bit different than other brands because of the coated finish. But they might please you.
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I use elixirs on my guitars but didn't really think of them for bass, I must give a look into them!

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Right, got the .145 today, problem (mostly) solved. The lack of tension is totally gone , feels a lot better to play and the notes ring out a lot better. I really like the sound of the D'addario Prosteels, there's a nice low big low end to them with plenty of clarity on the top, I'll pick up a full set of them for my next re-stringing. It's a bit hard on my poor guitarists fingers, I'm gonna have to toughen up :lol:

There is a slight problem with the string going through the bridge though, the last inch before the ball won't fit through, so I imagine that's not doing me any favours, so I'll go for a .135 when I'm restringing it again.

Next on the cards is going to be new pickups and a new bridge, that should (hopefully) have my lust to upgrade quenched and let me spend more time actually playing it!

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[quote name='Toasted' timestamp='1328190751' post='1523302']
Second best strings, Sadowsky Blue Steels.
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Sadowsky Blue Steels are really great strings! :) I had a set on my MTD535 almost a year and they still sounded as new. The tension is just right and I love their sound! Highly recommended!

PS! Well, I oil my strings after every playing using Dunlop String Cleaner - also highly recommended! Saves you lots of money! ;)

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[quote name='Acebassmusic' timestamp='1328046301' post='1521007']
I'm using Ken Smith TCRML-5's ([color=#000000]Taper Core-Medium Light[/color] [color=#000000].044 .063 .080T .102T .125T[/color]).

Also hex core strings tend to feel tighter / stiffer I find.
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NIce strings ...

To the OP... give Newtone a call and see what they suggest. Very helpful and make custom sets altho there is a wating list.
Best strings for me atm....and I've tried most...recently, as well.

I would also suggest that it is not a given that a Fender would have a good B anyway... so it may be that strings can only help so far.
If the problem is tension, you might get round it...if it is tone/resonance, you may not..!!

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