musophilr Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 [quote name='Mr. Foxen' timestamp='1335472511' post='1631901'] Oh yeah, probably should mention doing some stuff in the Octobass range. Unplugged. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FP1QqtGe8ts[/media] [/quote] I defy most peoples' speakers to reproduce that, even if the microphone could have recorded it properly to start with ! What an amazing instrument though. Not sure I've got room for one, either at home, or in the car on the way to a gig ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdwardHimself Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Everyone to themselves I guess but I personally love the sound of a really low note. One of my basses goes down to G at the moment, the other 4 string is in drop C and my 5 string is tuned as a normal 5 string but a step down. This is because our band is in B tuning but I like being able to have the step lower down on the bass sometimes for effect. It also means that you're having to play fretted notes pretty much all the time. Takes a bit of getting used to I admit but it feels pretty good being able to play in one or 2 hand positions with no open strings once you have. Imo obvs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 If you're into extreme low tuning you should probably look at getting a [url=http://www.knuckleguitarworks.com/instruments/quake.html]Knuckle Quake[/url]. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twigman Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Only ever used standard tunings. I have used speeded up and slowed down standard tunings on analogue tape (in the old days) or melodyne pitch shifting (these days) when recording albums Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toneknob Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Are non-bass submissions allowed? The 12-string guitar into to Genesis' The Cinema Show requires dDgGaDeGbbee. Yes, the "D" and "G" pairs are tuned to different notes. Aieee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leftyhook Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 E_D G snapped A string, so spare. That was some spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Foxen Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 [quote name='musophilr' timestamp='1335539665' post='1632901'] I defy most peoples' speakers to reproduce that, even if the microphone could have recorded it properly to start with ! What an amazing instrument though. Not sure I've got room for one, either at home, or in the car on the way to a gig ... [/quote] Can hear it as a sound fine via youtube. Just shows how much the fundamental doesn't matter, it doesn't even come out of the instrument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrdirtyrob Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 I used to only play in CGCF (used a thin 'low B' tuned up on the bottom). I was lucky both bands I was in used the same tuning, it meant I couldn't tune to standard if I wanted to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjohn Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 [quote name='leftyhook' timestamp='1335547051' post='1633055'] E_D G snapped A string, so spare. That was some spot. [/quote] Done the same. Had to restring detune the D & G down to A and D. [i]Sort of[/i] got away with it. Never again. In my defence it was a two week / three month old set of flatwounds, the previous set I'd snapped the A. Always with the A strings on TIs. Didn't cross my mind I'd developed a penchant for it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leschirons Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 [quote name='icastle' timestamp='1328642456' post='1530607'] I only ever use standard tuning for two reasons: 1) I've played that way for 30+ years and know where the notes are without having to guess or relearn from scratch. 2) Once you go below a low B then all you're really doing is attracting earthworms. [/quote] This, partly because I've never ever been asked to use any weird tuning and partly because anything I'm likely to play can be done on a five or six string. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 [quote name='thepurpleblob' timestamp='1335515433' post='1632348'] Metal is second only to Jazz as a genre I will never understand [/quote] Metal is ... a genre I will never understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 [quote name='mrdirtyrob' timestamp='1335556174' post='1633238'] I used to only play in CGCF (used a thin 'low B' tuned up on the bottom). I was lucky both bands I was in used the same tuning, it meant I couldn't tune to standard if I wanted to. [/quote] I've never understood this thing about 'tuning the same as the band'. I've played with lots of folk/blues guitarists who use odd or open tunings but I just play EADG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EssentialTension Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 [quote name='bigjohn' timestamp='1335563438' post='1633330'] Always with the A strings on TIs. [/quote] The only strings I have broken in living memory were TI Jazz Flat A strings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subbeh Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Played in C at an audition and it sounded pretty good, unfortunately they only seemed to want to play WWF/E wrestler intro music so that didn't last . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonno1981 Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Standard tuning in my band is D#, A#. D#, G#. Basically drop D but up a semi tone. Sounds brilliant! Plenty more definition on the low stuff! We did experiment with some other tunings but this seems to work for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thodrik Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 My old band's guitarists used to tune to drop E flat (?). I ended up doing the same on a four string bass, as the style of the band needed the open string sound of the two E flat strings. Playing in standard just didn't sound right in comparison. Nevertheless, the concept of tuning up and down from standard at the same time confused me. I don't think there is anything wrong with using alternative tunings so long as you set your instrument up to able to play it. Sometimes I feel that some people view anything that isn't in standard tuning doesn't qualify as 'real music'. Playing in a lower than standard tuning doesn't necessarily make you a talentless, 'nu-metal musician', although there are certain bands that reside in that territory. Plenty of awful bands using standard tuning as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBollock Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 [quote name='leschirons' timestamp='1335566974' post='1633368'] This, partly because I've never ever been asked to use any weird tuning and partly because anything I'm likely to play can be done on a five or six string. [/quote] When I played in bands I was never asked to play in anything other than standard. I don't think I even knew you [i]could [/i]play in alternative tunings for the first 10 years of playing. This caused some trouble when it came to learning stuff from records, especially as it was all metal, I just gave up trying to learn from the record. I had a Guns & Roses Bass Tab book and didn't know they tuned half a step down, so none of it worked when I tried to play along to the songs, very frustrating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icastle Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 [quote name='thodrik' timestamp='1335652355' post='1634358'] Sometimes I feel that some people view anything that isn't in standard tuning doesn't qualify as 'real music'. Playing in a lower than standard tuning doesn't necessarily make you a talentless, 'nu-metal musician', although there are certain bands that reside in that territory. Plenty of awful bands using standard tuning as well! [/quote] Yep, I can happily accept that, provided the converse is also accepted - using drop tuning doesn't automatically make it 'real music' or illustrate talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thodrik Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 [quote name='icastle' timestamp='1335654414' post='1634370'] Yep, I can happily accept that, provided the converse is also accepted - using drop tuning doesn't automatically make it 'real music' or illustrate talent. [/quote] Absolutely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toast Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 I don't see a 5 string as a good compromise for down-tuning... not only does down-tuning make it lower, but it also changes the tone of the higher notes completely, not to mention it puts the open strings on different notes. It certainly isn't pointless, is what I'm saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris2112 Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 [quote name='Nibody' timestamp='1328597419' post='1529600'] Been asked to join a "Nu Metal" type band by a mate. They play in "C" tuning. Rubber band strings anyone ? [/quote] Nu Metal? Are they a serious band, or has the nostalgia scene for nu metal started already? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judo Chop Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 [quote name='Chris2112' timestamp='1335680244' post='1634450'] Nu Metal? Are they a serious band, or has the nostalgia scene for nu metal started already? [/quote] Time to get the baggy shorts, skateboards and red caps out again is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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