Joe Hubbard Bass Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 (edited) My new book Walking Bass Lines is now available. Listen to what others are saying about the impact of this book: [size=3][color=#000000][font=Calibri]“Walking Bass Lines by Joe Hubbard is a wonderful book! It is perfectly formatted...in fact, it takes the same approach that I use with my own students, but Joe has spelled it out better than I ever could have; I only wish that I had written it! I am actually going to recommend that my students pick up this book to work through as we work on changes and walking. Thanks for the source material Joe!” [b]--Damian Erskine (Bassist with The Jaco Pastorius Big Band, Peter Erskine, Gino Vanelli)[/b][/font][/color][/size] [url="http://www.joehubbardbass.com/purchase-cds/"]http://www.joehubbardbass.com/purchase-cds/[/url] [size=3][color=#000000][font=Calibri][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Cheers[/font][/font][/color][/size] [size=3][color=#000000][font=Calibri][font=arial, helvetica, sans-serif]Joe[/font][/font][/color][/size] Edited February 18, 2013 by Joe Hubbard Bass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coilte Posted February 12, 2012 Share Posted February 12, 2012 No accompanying play along CD ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Hubbard Bass Posted February 12, 2012 Author Share Posted February 12, 2012 No, it's just a book. I've beta tested these ideas on many of my students with great success. Please check out the glowing testimonials from some of the music industry's top pros. Best- Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bass24 Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 Being able to listen to the tracks on a CD is a great help I find. Could these be put on your website? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coilte Posted February 13, 2012 Share Posted February 13, 2012 [quote name='bass24' timestamp='1329123785' post='1537273'] Being able to listen to the tracks on a CD is a great help I find. [/quote] +1. OP, I have no doubt that your new book is excellent. However, I find CD's a great help. With walking bass, all the pros seem to agree that the idea is to get the sounds into your [b]ears[/b], as well as under your fingers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcater Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 Where can the book be ordered from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louisthebass Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 [quote name='jcater' timestamp='1329305609' post='1540241'] Where can the book be ordered from? [/quote] You have to order it direct from Joe's website - [url="http://www.joehubbardbass.com"]www.joehubbardbass.com[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faithless Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 you get that information into your ears and fingers by [b]practicing [/b]it extensively, not by listening to a play-along recording. There are hundreds of playalong tracks made by different tuition services, like Aebersold, so it's up to you to get that track or program one yourself, and practice the ideas in the book with it. Another good idea is to take those ideas in the book, and write out some lines on popular forms/standards. As a fellow Joe's student and book owner I can say that the information provided helps your playing and harmony understanding no end if you really spend your time with it. easy Laimis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coilte Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Faithless' timestamp='1329316398' post='1540525'] you get that information into your ears and fingers by [b]practicing [/b]it extensively, not by listening to a play-along recording. There are hundreds of playalong tracks made by different tuition services, like Aebersold, so it's up to you to get that track or program one yourself, and practice the ideas in the book with it. Another good idea is to take those ideas in the book, and write out some lines on popular forms/standards. As a fellow Joe's student and book owner I can say that the information provided helps your playing and harmony understanding no end if you really spend your time with it. easy Laimis [/quote] I accept your points. However, IMO playing along to a CD which puts all the lessons learned in the book together, can only but speed up the learning process. If Ed Friedland, Ed Fuqua and Jay Hungerford can provide accompanying CD's, with their Walking Bass books, why cant Joe ? They obviously see the benefit that a book's own CD can provide. Edited February 15, 2012 by Coilte Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Hubbard Bass Posted February 16, 2012 Author Share Posted February 16, 2012 (edited) [size=4][font=Calibri][color=#000000]I haven’t included a playalong CD for a reason- they don’t allow the player to improve. This is because the “playalong” represents a performance, not practice. Being able to play along with backing tracks successfully is the result or reward, not the methodology for development. I do include a recommended listening list that includes the legacy of jazz bass players who were influential in this genre. Check out bass players like Israel Crosby, Sam Jones, Jimmy Garrison, NHOP, Ron Carter, Jeff Andrews, Ray Brown, Charlie Haden and Christian McBride. Most young people do even know who these guys are, let alone done the research required by listening, transcribing and analysing the recordings they have played on.[/color][/font][/size] [size=4][font=Calibri][color=#000000][b]If you can already play world class walking bass lines, then you do not need this book! [/b] However, if after purchasing multiple walking bass lines books (w/ palyalong CDs) you find that you still cannot play effective walking bass lines that outline the harmony with laser sharp clarity, then this book will help you to improve exponentially![/color][/font][/size] [size=4][font=Calibri][color=#000000]This book follows a step-by-step modular approach that forces to student to work through the material progressively. The material in this book could easily take ten years to go through. It is not an easy book, but easily understandable. There is also an effective section on how to practice. I can guarantee your improvement because I have Beta tested this same material on my students and have witnessed real time success.[/color][/font] Best[/size] [size=4]Joe[/size] Edited February 16, 2012 by Joe Hubbard Bass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coilte Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 That's fair enough Joe. I wish you every success with the book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakenewmanbass Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 (edited) I'm another in the camp of not really liking playalongs... I think you should be able to carry the sound of changes alone, so a walking bass line can, if desired allow the listener to follow the changes with no other instruments playing, (one can also choose of course to make the path less obvious) and I agree with Joe that playing along, whilst perfectly fine to do, is not discovery and study in quite the same way. The only caveat for me is that this is all just opinion and different folk like to discover methodologies that suit them best. As for getting the sound in your ears... for me the best way to do that is by immersing yourself in the piece, either alone or by listening to others perform it. All the best with the book Joe! Edited February 16, 2012 by jakenewmanbass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 I agree that the playalongs route can be a hinderance as much as a help. I learned a few standards that way (Miss Jones, anyone?) and hate that, everytime I play them, I almost always default to those lines at some point (muscle memory?)! Great if the horn player wants the Aebersold behind them but not so great if you want to play Jazz like a grown up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Hubbard Bass Posted February 16, 2012 Author Share Posted February 16, 2012 (edited) [quote name='jakenewmanbass' timestamp='1329394205' post='1541694'] The only caveat for me is that ... different folk like to discover methodologies that suit them best. [/quote] [color=#000000]This point of view has always baffled me. If people know what is best for them then they don’t need advice from a teacher. Can you envisage Mike Tyson telling Gus Damato what was best for him? In fact, after Gus passed away, this was Mike Tyson’s big downfall in his development; he tried to dictate to his coaches what was best for him- that was the point that Mike starting losing.[/color] [color=#000000] [/color] [color=#000000]It is generally a bad idea to hire a teacher and then only choose the advice that you like. When I studied with Charlie Banacos, it was his way or the highway. I never once questioned a single thing Charlie gave me to work on; I hired him to teach me because of his expertise on the subject of jazz improvisation.[/color] [color=#000000]With that in mind, with everything that you learn you should absorb what is useful, discard what is useless and then add what is specifically your own. [/color] [color=#000000]Best[/color] [color=#000000]Joe [/color] Edited February 16, 2012 by Joe Hubbard Bass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parker85 Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Thinking about picking this book up, just wondering if it includes tab or is notation only? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hollywoodrox Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 [quote name='Parker85' timestamp='1353499475' post='1875180'] Thinking about picking this book up, just wondering if it includes tab or is notation only? Thanks. [/quote]me too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doddy Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 [quote name='Parker85' timestamp='1353499475' post='1875180'] Thinking about picking this book up, just wondering if it includes tab or is notation only? Thanks. [/quote] Judging by Joe's other books I would guess (hope) that it's all notation. Let's be honest...you don't get any information about the harmony in tabs. Also,just out of interest,I'm another one who doesn't really bother with the CD's that come with books. If all the information is present on the page (it usually is),you (I) don't need to listen to it to be able to learn it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parker85 Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Thanks, I'm hoping to be able to read notation in the near future but at the moment I'm stuck with tab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Hubbard Bass Posted January 20, 2013 Author Share Posted January 20, 2013 (edited) [size=4][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif][color=#000000]There is NO tablature in my books as learning tab is a superfluous skill. It was actually brought into public awareness in the 80’s by guitar magazines and music book publishers with only one aim in mind- to make more sales! You will never use or be given tab in a professional scenario- never. It has also dumbed down most up and coming rock players because it takes the onus off of developing your ears. I recently saw a post on a popular bass forum where some guy said, “Urgent- need tabs for Jumpin’ Jack Flash as I have a gig at the end of the week where I’ll have to play that.” These are sad times when the average guy doesn’t want to take the time to figure out simple tunes out by ear. [/color] [color=#000000]All the Bass[/color][/font] [font=Times New Roman][color=#000000]Joe[/color][/font][/size] Edited January 20, 2013 by Joe Hubbard Bass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grangur Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 [quote name='Joe Hubbard Bass' timestamp='1358677211' post='1943033'] [size=4][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif][color=#000000]There is NO tablature in my books as learning tab is a superfluous skill. ....[/color][/font][/size] [size=4][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif][color=#000000]All the Bass[/color][/font] [font=Times New Roman][color=#000000]Joe[/color][/font][/size] [/quote] HOORAYYY!!!! [b]Thank you SOOO much!![/b] You've just sold this book to me by this one fact. I've been using a few books and keep finding the same problem... I can't ignore the tabs. Most recently I've been using Stuart Clayton's Crash Bass course. Yesterday I was playing: 0 0, change string, 3 2, change string, 0 0..... I then got to feel like floging the F***g bass. What's the point of playing by numbers. I don't even know what notes I'm playing! OK the staves are there, but my eyes go straight to the tabs and I've stopped learning the fretboard! IMHO if you don't know the notes you're playing then you can't rally play the instrument, and you're no musician. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Clayton Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 [quote name='Grangur' timestamp='1358707422' post='1943762'] HOORAYYY!!!! [b]Thank you SOOO much!![/b] You've just sold this book to me by this one fact. I've been using a few books and keep finding the same problem... I can't ignore the tabs. Most recently I've been using Stuart Clayton's Crash Bass course. Yesterday I was playing: 0 0, change string, 3 2, change string, 0 0..... I then got to feel like floging the F***g bass. What's the point of playing by numbers. I don't even know what notes I'm playing! OK the staves are there, but my eyes go straight to the tabs and I've stopped learning the fretboard! IMHO if you don't know the notes you're playing then you can't rally play the instrument, and you're no musician. [/quote] I'd like to point out here that I completely agree with Joe on the subject of TAB. It is unnecessary, and exists only to sell books. I don't use it in my own theory books (those published through Bassline Publishing), but I was TOLD to use it for the book that you mention. When I wrote that book I was under contract with Sanctuary Publishing, and despite my protestations, they insisted on TAB being included. Stuart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doddy Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 [quote name='Joe Hubbard Bass' timestamp='1358677211' post='1943033'] [size=4][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif][color=#000000]There is NO tablature in my books as learning tab is a superfluous skill. It was actually brought into public awareness in the 80’s by guitar magazines and music book publishers with only one aim in mind- to make more sales! You will never use or be given tab in a professional scenario- never. It has also dumbed down most up and coming rock players because it takes the onus off of developing your ears. I recently saw a post on a popular bass forum where some guy said, “Urgent- need tabs for Jumpin’ Jack Flash as I have a gig at the end of the week where I’ll have to play that.” These are sad times when the average guy doesn’t want to take the time to figure out simple tunes out by ear. [/color] [color=#000000]All the Bass[/color][/font] [font=Times New Roman][color=#000000]Joe[/color][/font][/size] [/quote] Thanks Joe....I've been saying this for ages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danthevan Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 No tab? No cd? That's me bolloxed unless you do a notation for dummies book too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louisthebass Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Hi Joe, Quick question - is there any chance of your "Pop Basslines" book being republished? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louisthebass Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 [quote name='danthevan' timestamp='1358719918' post='1944130'] No tab? No cd? That's me bolloxed unless you do a notation for dummies book too [/quote] Try this website - should get you started: [url="http://www.studybass.com/"]http://www.studybass.com/[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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