charic Posted February 15, 2012 Author Share Posted February 15, 2012 Also that muse song sounds pretty cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AttitudeCastle Posted February 15, 2012 Share Posted February 15, 2012 [quote name='charic' timestamp='1329341837' post='1541094'] Well were buddies dontcha know? See here's us hanging out... [attachment=100060:ScaledDown.jpg] And here's the link to the info [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Myung"]http://en.wikipedia....wiki/John_Myung[/url] Ok... it's not entirely reliable [/quote] So jealous. So jealous. I'm not jealous at all... [quote name='charic' timestamp='1329343165' post='1541124'] Also that muse song sounds pretty cool [/quote] Is that the kind of idea/tone you're after? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charic Posted February 16, 2012 Author Share Posted February 16, 2012 Maybe a tad more aggressive with more pronounced mids but not far off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AttitudeCastle Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 [quote name='charic' timestamp='1329376384' post='1541356'] Maybe a tad more aggressive with more pronounced mids but not far off [/quote] It's something along the lines of a Muff blended with a clean signal, you could try that, (using a bass muff for more low end maybe) and crack the mids? Though there are a few users on here who know it all better than I! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charic Posted February 16, 2012 Author Share Posted February 16, 2012 I need to win the lotto so I can buy tonnes of pedals and test at my own leisure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 I think a lot of the reason using a guitar rig as well is that it pronounces your mids way more than you would ever normally do with a bass amp. I do use a guitar amp, but my pedal board sounds pretty much the same through studio monitors, so I think my pedals are doing a lot of that mid boosting. A bass big muff (for the clean blend) and some extreme EQ might get you there. I think most of the HUGE sounds come from using more than one pedal or amp, and that's why a multi-effects unit would be good, because you can experiment with all that without the expense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charic Posted February 16, 2012 Author Share Posted February 16, 2012 [quote name='cheddatom' timestamp='1329382868' post='1541432'] I think a lot of the reason using a guitar rig as well is that it pronounces your mids way more than you would ever normally do with a bass amp. I do use a guitar amp, but my pedal board sounds pretty much the same through studio monitors, so I think my pedals are doing a lot of that mid boosting. A bass big muff (for the clean blend) and some extreme EQ might get you there. I think most of the HUGE sounds come from using more than one pedal or amp, and that's why a multi-effects unit would be good, because you can experiment with all that without the expense. [/quote] I had originally intended to go for seperates but that Zoom 9 does look very tempting... At the very least it would be great for spatial effects from what I've heard! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xgsjx Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 A multi FX unit would be a cheapish & effective way to experiment & get an idea of what you're after & then if you decide you want seperate pedals, you have an idea of what you want. I was playing with my board this morning & got a huge sound by putting the octaver on clean & 1 oct lower then splitting the signal in the bass murf & putting all the lows into a chorus & everything else went into a distortion pedal & then into the low pass filter with quite a but of resonance. Getting some very scary lows & opening the filter makes it go Raaargh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charic Posted February 16, 2012 Author Share Posted February 16, 2012 [quote name='xgsjx' timestamp='1329394184' post='1541690'] A multi FX unit would be a cheapish & effective way to experiment & get an idea of what you're after & then if you decide you want seperate pedals, you have an idea of what you want. I was playing with my board this morning & got a huge sound by putting the octaver on clean & 1 oct lower then splitting the signal in the bass murf & putting all the lows into a chorus & everything else went into a distortion pedal & then into the low pass filter with quite a but of resonance. Getting some very scary lows & opening the filter makes it go Raaargh! [/quote] I have no idea why but this post put a huge grin on my face! Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xgsjx Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 [quote name='charic' timestamp='1329395756' post='1541741'] I have no idea why but this post put a huge grin on my face! Thanks [/quote] If I can get any time, I'll record it & put it on here. Might be able to get a quick record with a field mic in the morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_5 Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 [quote name='charic' timestamp='1329211097' post='1538675'] Basically the first time I turn it on I want my guitarist to sh*t himself [/quote] If you're after guitarist defecation then take sheet music to rehearsal - works every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigcapener Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 I think you should get out there and try literally as many pedals as possible. I use the mxr m80 and i use it for pretty high gain stuff, its a touch hissy but as long as you dont have a tweeter in your amp its not too much of a bother. Also use the obd3 and together they give a pretty fat, humongous sound! Go out there and just try lots, its hard to rely on opinions just from a forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charic Posted February 17, 2012 Author Share Posted February 17, 2012 [quote name='craigcapener' timestamp='1329485392' post='1543182'] I think you should get out there and try literally as many pedals as possible. I use the mxr m80 and i use it for pretty high gain stuff, its a touch hissy but as long as you dont have a tweeter in your amp its not too much of a bother. Also use the obd3 and together they give a pretty fat, humongous sound! Go out there and just try lots, its hard to rely on opinions just from a forum. [/quote] Yeah I know Unfortunately carting my bass and my amp/cabs down to shops and not knowing what to try seems a little silly. So I thought I would give here a go first SERIOUSLY considering the Zoom B9.1ut... we'll see how things are looking on payday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannybuoy Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 (edited) Any reason you're going for the B9? Not tried one but I thought it had nearly the same effects as the B2, which doesn't do heavy distortion very well. The B3 on the other hand has a GREAT Bass Big Muff simulation and all kinds of clean blend trickery to keep things punchy. Edited February 17, 2012 by dannybuoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt on your Bass? Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 I'd give SFX a look and Tech-21 Bass XXL. MXR blow torch on the fuzz side is also quite nice, as is a turbo rat which you can grab pretty cheap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charic Posted February 17, 2012 Author Share Posted February 17, 2012 [quote name='dannybuoy' timestamp='1329499410' post='1543499'] Any reason you're going for the B9? Not tried one but I thought it had nearly the same effects as the B2, which doesn't do heavy distortion very well. The B3 on the other hand has a GREAT Bass Big Muff simulation and all kinds of clean blend trickery to keep things punchy. [/quote] Purely for the number of options. Plus I expect the tube pre will help with drive. I'd like to try one but eq, drive and ambient effects all mean I should able to do a lot with the pedal and not make much of a loss if I decide to move it on. Also apparently all effects have a clean blend. Like I say need to wait n see if i can test but to me the 9 looks much better fit than the 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_5 Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 [quote name='Salt on your Bass?' timestamp='1329499507' post='1543501'] I'd give SFX a look and Tech-21 Bass XXL. MXR blow torch on the fuzz side is also quite nice, as is a turbo rat which you can grab pretty cheap [/quote] Another +1 for the XXL. The 'Warp' control is your friend! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismuzz Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 [quote name='charic' timestamp='1329307287' post='1540282'] Interestingly I just read that myung has an MXR Doubleshot on his board... If this is correct and I'm not being dumb isn't this a GUITAR distortion?! [/quote] Where did you read this? I'm always gear stalking my idols Also, I'll agree with other who have said guitar distortions sound great on bass! Try to find a Marshall Jackhammer somewhere if you can, I got mine given to me by a mate as it's not so good on guitar... but it's the best dirt pedal i own! I didn't notice any low end loss, and there's even an EQ/contour section on the pedal for unlimited options Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charic Posted February 18, 2012 Author Share Posted February 18, 2012 [quote name='chrismuzz' timestamp='1329519288' post='1543922'] Where did you read this? I'm always gear stalking my idols Also, I'll agree with other who have said guitar distortions sound great on bass! Try to find a Marshall Jackhammer somewhere if you can, I got mine given to me by a mate as it's not so good on guitar... but it's the best dirt pedal i own! I didn't notice any low end loss, and there's even an EQ/contour section on the pedal for unlimited options [/quote] Wikipedia :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xgsjx Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 Managed to get a quick recording just now using a field mic plugged into iMac as I haven't got a lead to connect to iMac just now, so excuse the hiss, crackle & lack of lower frequencies. But it gives you an idea. The basic sound is distortion, chorus & low pass filter (with an expression pedal) & then I add the octaver with 50% clean & 100% -1 octave. This should give you an idea of what this combination of effects can sound like & you could probably get very similar with a decent multi fx unit. I'm actually splitting things in the Bass Murf & only have distortion, chorus & LPF on the higher frequencies (Probably from @ 200 Hz) & using a bit of extra drive from the Murf on everything. The octaver is before everything & I did a couple of runs to show you the tracking issues (it tracks everything fine, right down to my messy mistakes ). Anyway, here it is... http://soundcloud.com/bassg/fears Add this to banjo & tin whistle & your audience are gonna be petrified! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisnameistaken Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 What you need is an Octavius Squeezer set to the factory preset 'No Dana, Only Zuul'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charic Posted February 22, 2012 Author Share Posted February 22, 2012 [quote name='xgsjx' timestamp='1329903839' post='1549234'] Managed to get a quick recording just now using a field mic plugged into iMac as I haven't got a lead to connect to iMac just now, so excuse the hiss, crackle & lack of lower frequencies. But it gives you an idea. The basic sound is distortion, chorus & low pass filter (with an expression pedal) & then I add the octaver with 50% clean & 100% -1 octave. This should give you an idea of what this combination of effects can sound like & you could probably get very similar with a decent multi fx unit. I'm actually splitting things in the Bass Murf & only have distortion, chorus & LPF on the higher frequencies (Probably from @ 200 Hz) & using a bit of extra drive from the Murf on everything. The octaver is before everything & I did a couple of runs to show you the tracking issues (it tracks everything fine, right down to my messy mistakes ). Anyway, here it is... [url="http://soundcloud.com/bassg/fears"]http://soundcloud.com/bassg/fears[/url] Add this to banjo & tin whistle & your audience are gonna be petrified! [/quote] Quite cool but not aggressive enough for me tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charic Posted February 22, 2012 Author Share Posted February 22, 2012 [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XzXeWPyOYWs#!"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XzXeWPyOYWs#![/url] About 1:50 I would love to have access too.. shame it's a bit rich for just one pedal! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xgsjx Posted February 22, 2012 Share Posted February 22, 2012 High gain distortion should do what you want. My distortion is a high gain & I never have it above 1(out of 10) as it's too much for my folk band. On that recording I had it at 1. You could probably pick up a distortion pedal for peanuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twentyhertz Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 Big fuzzy distortion, with just a hint of chorus on top. Meaty. Listen to Om/Sleep, and you'll kinda get an idea of it. I'm on a black Russian Big Muff, and I loves it. Tried the Little Big Muff for a few months, but wasn't so keen. Turbo Rat is quite fun, and so so cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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