MacDaddy Posted February 16, 2012 Posted February 16, 2012 Back in the days of [i]Guitar for the Practising Musician[/i], guitar heroes were a plenty. Then gunge came along and did away with all that. But who was the last guitar hero? I mean proper back in the day guitar hero, I reckon Nuno Bettencourt.
charic Posted February 16, 2012 Posted February 16, 2012 Petrucci has been going since 85 does that count?
ojplaysbass Posted February 16, 2012 Posted February 16, 2012 wasn't Matt Bellamy meant to be the modern guitar hero?
shizznit Posted February 16, 2012 Posted February 16, 2012 (edited) Hmmm...not sure the grunge era necessarily killed off guitar hero's. Stone Gossard and Mike McCreedy from Pearl Jam are awesome players and one of the best lead/rhythm combo in rock music ever. Tom Morrello is known for weird noises and is very inspirational in that vein, but is a flaming hot shredder too. Billy Corgan and James Iha from the Smashing Pumpkins are really clever musicians and came up with some classic riffs and interesting guitar tones. Jeff Buckley was pretty bad ass and one of the most melodic players I have ever heard. Peter Buck from REM is a hugely influential guitarist. I love players like Slash, Dimebag, Nuno, Vai etc… but, playing 1000 notes per bar doesn’t make a guitar hero IMO. BB King is one of my fav guitar hero’s and he will only play two or three notes in a bar and is still hugely influential after all of these years! Edited February 16, 2012 by shizznit
EdwardHimself Posted February 16, 2012 Posted February 16, 2012 [quote name='shizznit' timestamp='1329408031' post='1542052'] Hmmm...not sure the grunge era necessarily killed off guitar hero's. Stone Gossard and Mike McCreedy from Pearl Jam are awesome players and one of the best lead/rhythm combo in rock music ever. Tom Morrello is known for weird noises and is very inspirational in that vein, but is a flaming hot shredder too. Billy Corgan and James Iha from the Smashing Pumpkins are really clever musicians and came up with some classic riffs and interesting guitar tones. Jeff Buckley was pretty bad ass and one of the most melodic players I have ever heard. Peter Buck from REM is a hugely influential guitarist. I love players like Slash, Dimebag, Nuno, Vai etc… but, playing 1000 notes per bar doesn’t make a guitar hero IMO. BB King is one of my fav guitar hero’s and he will only play two or three notes in a bar and is still hugely influential after all of these years! [/quote] This. I must say this does sound worryingly like one of these "everything was better back in [i]my day[/i]" type of threads...
skankdelvar Posted February 16, 2012 Posted February 16, 2012 Outside the pop charts, I'd have thought there were crillions of guitar heroes under 25, all slaving away in different sub-genres. I can't name any though, because I haven't bought any 'new' music since 1986. Can someone fill in for me? Ta.
leftybassman392 Posted February 16, 2012 Posted February 16, 2012 (edited) [quote name='EdwardHimself' timestamp='1329409239' post='1542076'] This. I must say this does sound worryingly like one of these "everything was better back in [i]my day[/i]" type of threads... [/quote] Not from me. I answered the question in the terms in which it was asked. As it happens I'm always open to new music (which, come to think of it, was pretty much a requirement of the job as a guitar teacher - it was by no means uncommon for me to have students walk through the door clutching a CD by someone I'd never heard of). Just because I wouldn't listen to it for my own pleasure doesn't mean I didn't like it. I'd hope any musician who wants to be taken seriously as such would have a similar viewpoint. Edited February 16, 2012 by leftybassman392
Low End Bee Posted February 16, 2012 Posted February 16, 2012 Whoever plays short solos only when they absolutely have to and always play for the song are my heroes.
ahpook Posted February 16, 2012 Posted February 16, 2012 [quote name='MacDaddy' timestamp='1329405112' post='1541977'] Back in the days of [i]Guitar for the Practising Musician[/i], guitar heroes were a plenty. Then gunge came along and did away with all that. [/quote] then why are guitar shops still full of people w***ing on egg slicers ?
shizznit Posted February 16, 2012 Posted February 16, 2012 [quote name='ahpook' timestamp='1329413114' post='1542163'] then why are guitar shops still full of people w***ing on egg slicers ? [/quote] True. I have heard many kids in music shops chopping away at Dragon Force songs. Shred is definately not dead.
alanbass1 Posted February 18, 2012 Posted February 18, 2012 [quote name='ojplaysbass' timestamp='1329407496' post='1542040'] wasn't Matt Bellamy meant to be the modern guitar hero? [/quote] Yep, and having seen him live a few times he certainly has the full package
Lozz196 Posted February 18, 2012 Posted February 18, 2012 I still rate Slash as being a proper guitar hero. Yes, he can widdle, but more of the time he seems to play solos with real feeling in them. From November Rain with GnR, to American Man with VR, not to mention his solo album, and the many guest slots he appears on.
Ancient Mariner Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 [quote name='Low End Bee' timestamp='1329411705' post='1542127'] Whoever plays short solos only when they absolutely have to and always play for the song are my heroes. [/quote] I disagree in part. Play for the song, absolutely, but never cut a good solo short - it's what the song is for!
Blademan_98 Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 It all stops with Mr Gilmour........ and it was better in my day Mr Hendrix, Mr Clapton and er thats it really
leftybassman392 Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 (edited) [quote name='ojplaysbass' timestamp='1329407496' post='1542040'] wasn't Matt Bellamy meant to be the modern guitar hero? [/quote] I'm a big fan of Muse and like Bellamy's guitar playing a lot. As to whether he counts as a guitar hero in the way that guys like Slash, Bettencourt, Satriani, et.al. would depends on what you actually mean by the term. For me it is at least partly to do with technique - all the other guys mentioned here were known at least partly for their technical prowess, and much as I like Bellamy's guitar work, I'm not sure that I'd call it heroic in that sense. Technically at least, I reckon he's a better piano/keyboard player than a guitarist. Edited February 19, 2012 by leftybassman392
Steve G Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 Marty Freidman for me. He did a solo album which showed him in a different pespective (the name escapes me but 'Scenes' maybe?) from his Megadeth stuff, almost kind of classical in places. That said the way He and Dave Mustaine trade lead roles during the same song on a lot of their stuff is fab, Tornado of Souls being a personal favourite!!
Ancient Mariner Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 [quote name='leftybassman392' timestamp='1329668644' post='1545557'] I'm a big fan of Muse and like Bellamy's guitar playing a lot. As to whether he counts as a guitar hero in the way that guys like Slash, Bettencourt, Satriani, et.al. would depends on what you actually mean by the term. For me it is at least partly to do with technique - all the other guys mentioned here were known at least partly for their technical prowess, and much as I like Bellamy's guitar work, I'm not sure that I'd call it heroic in that sense. Technically at least, I reckon he's a better piano/keyboard player than a guitarist. [/quote] I believe Bellamy is meant to be a highly able player, but I cannot bear what muse I've heard - it breaks too many rules about what makes music enjoyable for me, and just sounds like someone trying too hard. Now back in my day.... mutter, mutter.... I'd go with Gilbert as being the last of the true heroes - just a phenomenal player, and really musical instead of merely shredding.
leftybassman392 Posted February 19, 2012 Posted February 19, 2012 [quote name='Ancient Mariner' timestamp='1329684459' post='1545966'] I believe Bellamy is meant to be a highly able player, but I cannot bear what muse I've heard - it breaks too many rules about what makes music enjoyable for me, and just sounds like someone trying too hard. Now back in my day.... mutter, mutter.... I'd go with Gilbert as being the last of the true heroes - just a phenomenal player, and really musical instead of merely shredding. [/quote] It's very well written modern rock music (and that's the basis of my liking of the band); but unless things have changed recently, it's very riff-driven and clearly designed to pull the listener in and give them something they can whistle to themselves on the way home. That's not what guitar heroes are supposed to do - I mean, the widdly stuff has memorable riffs too (Sweet Child o' Mine?), but a hero would use them as a jumping-off point, whereas for Muse they are pretty much the entire substance of the song. I'm sure others will beg to differ, but there it is. Now if you'll excuse me I'm overdue for my warm milk and Rusks.
Silvia Bluejay Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 [quote name='Steve G' timestamp='1329671654' post='1545625'] Marty Freidman for me. He did a solo album which showed him in a different pespective (the name escapes me but 'Scenes' maybe?) from his Megadeth stuff, almost kind of classical in places. That said the way He and Dave Mustaine trade lead roles during the same song on a lot of their stuff is fab, Tornado of Souls being a personal favourite!! [/quote] +1. And Alex Skolnick!! Whether he's wearing his thrash or jazz cap - awesome either way.
Silvia Bluejay Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 Oh my, I've just posted on a GUITAR thread. I blame the 16 years I spent with a metal-turned-jazz guitarist
Oopsdabassist Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 [quote name='ahpook' timestamp='1329413114' post='1542163'] then why are guitar shops still full of people w***ing on egg slicers ? [/quote] Aarggh awesome! gotta go on the awesome quotes thread that!!
d4tux Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 I'd say Guthrie Govan has to be the best guitarist I've heard in a long while. Not sure if he would be classed as modern enough to be considered a modern guitar hero though.
leftybassman392 Posted February 20, 2012 Posted February 20, 2012 (edited) [quote name='d4tux' timestamp='1329766042' post='1547026'] I'd say Guthrie Govan has to be the best guitarist I've heard in a long while. Not sure if he would be classed as modern enough to be considered a modern guitar hero though. [/quote] My current favourite quitar player (for several years now) and quite possibly the best all-round guitarist I've ever heard. If you love the electric guitar and haven't heard the 'Erotic Cakes' CD then you are truly missing out. As a taster, just type his name into the Youtube search engine. Despite all this, I wouldn't classify him as a guitar hero in the way that someone like Gilbert or Slash is. (Actually I'm not even sure he'd thank you for the moniker.) He's as good at Jazz and Blues as he is at shred. Edited February 20, 2012 by leftybassman392
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