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anyone ever go back to wood from graphite?


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Only im thinking of replacing my status graphite neck on my jazz with an allparts maple one, but cant afford the neck without selling my graphite one which would suck if the wooden wasnt as good. Did anyone else ever go back? (bearing in mind this is being thought of for purely shallow cosmetic reasons, the graphite neck is great, just kinda looks wrong on my jazz)

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I use both, it depends on the sound I want. I do like graphite necks live though, they sound more aggressive which makes it easier to hear them. Plus the solid, rigid neck means a nice low action (if the neck has been constructed properly) and that gives me superb control over the qualities of the note because I'm not fighting the bass so much.

I like wooden necks for sweeter sounds and a more organic feel, maybe in less demanding environments or for specific tones like motown choonz. Doesn't mean to say you can't get a graphite neck to sound sweet either, if you use a little compression or put it through a tube amp.

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I have had a couple of flea basses in the past. Much as I liked the sound I ended up selling them. I don't think there is a right or wrong answer it really is down to what you prefer. But in answer to your question, yes, I have gone back to wood from graphite.

Steve

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I've got Status Matrix but I use an Aria Cardinal now because it's more suitable for the 60's garage stuff I play (it has a shorter scale for a start). But when I used the Status I loved it for it's aggression and definition - I'd been using a Rick to that point and wanted something that would keep the clarity of the Rick but with more bottom end.

Listening to the Status on its own it did sound less organic somehow, though that didn't manifest itself in a band situation.

It's that old thing of horses for courses - which is a great for GAS. :)

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I use both - my Status Groove has a graphite neck and my Warwick Streamer Std is about as woody and organic as it gets with just the oiled finish. I like them both equally TBH.

If you have the cash you should try the wood neck and see how you get on - it's the only way you'll really know. You can always sell either neck on at a later date when you make your decision. Either that or save up and have similar basses one with a wood neck and one with graphite.

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[quote name='Hit&Run' post='171627' date='Apr 7 2008, 05:42 PM']I thought the Groove basses had wooden necks. Is it an aftermarket addition?[/quote]

Mine has a factory fitted Status MM neck as it was an end of production one and they'd run out of standard necks - I think mine is one of only 2 like this.
Mine is natural alder and the other was all black. It's a lovely bass and as close to a Modulus Flea as I'll ever get, especially for £700 inc hiscox LiteFlite. I also like the fact it's made in England and I've spoken to the man who made it.

I'd always liked Grooves except for the droopy headstock - and mine doesn't have that!

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[quote name='gafbass02' post='171625' date='Apr 7 2008, 05:41 PM']That 'bass' is covered (hehheh) i have a 75ri, a squier vmj and a geddy on the way plus my other basses so the wood necked jazz is taken care of![/quote]

I'd stick with the graphite neck then if I was you (although I'm not so you can ignore that if you like).

Which Squier do you have? They are so good looking and so affordable, the GAS pains get very intense when I see them - it's the lack of frets that stop me though.

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I've had 4 graphite necked basses but keep returning the wood. Then I want graphite again (see Items Wanted :) ). Neither's better, it's not either/or, they're just different in a Precision/Jazz way. I found my graphite necked basses generally easier to play but less forgiving live than my Precisions if that makes any sense?
Chris

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[quote name='Doc B' post='171623' date='Apr 7 2008, 05:34 PM']I use both - my Status Groove has a graphite neck[/quote]

Blimey, that's something special. Any chance of some pics in the bass porn section?

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[quote name='Doc B' post='171641' date='Apr 7 2008, 05:58 PM']Mine has a factory fitted Status MM neck as it was an end of production one and they'd run out of standard necks - I think mine is one of only 2 like this.
Mine is natural alder and the other was all black. It's a lovely bass and as close to a Modulus Flea as I'll ever get, especially for £700 inc hiscox LiteFlite. I also like the fact it's made in England and I've spoken to the man who made it.

I'd always liked Grooves except for the droopy headstock - and mine doesn't have that![/quote]
I have the last "real" Groove with wooden neck. Rob made it out of bits they found lying around about 2yrs after final production, then didn't really try to sell it. I saw it when I went up with a mate to pick up his new S1. Then he obviously found 2 more bodies and stuck graphite necks on them, man was I tempted by the black one a few years back....

Anyhoo, back on subject, if you already have a wooden encked jazz, don't bother doing anything to the Status-necked one!

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I have had several wooden necked basses alongside graphite necked basses for a while now, and although they were all nice in their own ways, every time I go back to graphite it just sounds like there is 'more' - more top end, bottom end, clarity, punch, flexibility and consistency between notes. I always end up selling the wooden necked ones!

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Personally, having basses with;

A Maple Neck and Phenolic 'board,
The Vigier with its 10/90 neck and Phenolic 'board,
Numerous Wooden items (!),

And having played Statii, Modulii (sic), Ped and the Doc's S2 Vigiers, Cutlasses etc. with their all-graphite necks, what I'd like is....

A Graphite necked instrument with a wooden fretboard. Especially a fretless with an ebony fingerboard or a fretted with Wenge...

Stability & neutrality from the neck. Warmth from the fretboard... Anybody? or am I totally mental?!

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[quote name='Lfalex v1.1' post='173796' date='Apr 10 2008, 11:31 AM']Personally, having basses with;

A Maple Neck and Phenolic 'board,
The Vigier with its 10/90 neck and Phenolic 'board,
Numerous Wooden items (!),

And having played Statii, Modulii (sic), Ped and the Doc's S2 Vigiers, Cutlasses etc. with their all-graphite necks, what I'd like is....

A Graphite necked instrument with a wooden fretboard. Especially a fretless with an ebony fingerboard or a fretted with Wenge...

Stability & neutrality from the neck. Warmth from the fretboard... Anybody? or am I totally mental?![/quote]
+100000000000000

I've played the same basses and come to the same conclusion, although we could both be mental.

I've been searching for somone who will sell headless graphite necks with wooden fingerboards for YEARS. I've talked to Rob Green about selling me a headless neck too. Sometimes he's said yes and sometimes he's said no depending on when I've spoken to him.

I think a nice bit of wenge on the front of a graphite neck would go a long way towards cutting down the fret clatter and brittleness. Interesting that we've formed the same conclusions from totally different starting points perhaps...?

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I still love the stability, playability and huge sustain of graphite necks:
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The Retroactive is the current favourite.
But there's always a pull to playing on wood, especially on a well made slim neck:
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The Precision is my current heavy user. Tried some recording and it doesn't have quite the sustain of the Retroactive (which is passive!) but an aftermarket bridge might change that (notice article in this month's BGM?). But the classic PBass thump and grind is great.
I personally find the graphites to be very well behaved, but I always use finger style picking which may make a difference as I need edge on the sound to cut through live.
As always this is entirely personal choice, but with a selection of basses at your command I would think a change of neck unnecessary.

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