njr911 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 I currently have a unused cellar room and am thinking of converting it into a rehersal room. It's currently got brick walls and a rubble floor. Whats the best way to soundproof this ? Concrete the floor ? Doesn't need to be totally soundproof just dead enough to have drums in there (electric kit maybe) without getting an asbo or stabbed by the neighbors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musophilr Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 try googling soundproofing a cellar. I got so many sites that I couldn't possibly list them all for you here BTW suggest you pay careful attention to the access (how will you get a bass rig down the steps?) and the damp-proofing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Plenty of good info about this sort of thing, including my own: [url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/149816-creating-my-own-rehearsal-space/page__hl__rehearsal%20space"]http://basschat.co.uk/topic/149816-creating-my-own-rehearsal-space/page__hl__rehearsal%20space[/url] I suspect that concrete is not your friend. Very good at carrying vibration, very good at transmitting vibration into your brick walls. If I were you, I'd think in terms of laying down some sand to get a smooth, level surface, covering that with a damp-proofing membrane, and then laying 18mm plywood over the whole thing to create a fully-floating floor. Then you can build stud walls onto that floating floor. You'll probably gather that I am neither a builder nor an architect, but I suspect you get the general idea. Ventilation is likely to be your biggest problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skankdelvar Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Concreting the floor won't stop the noise going upwards and outwards. But it will help with the damp. If you want to do it properly, here's the deal in brief: [list=1] [*]Tank your cellar to keep the damp out [*]Build a 'room within a room' [*]Seal off all possible means of noise escape - e.g. neoprene seals round a very solid door [*]Ventilation is optional but preferable [/list] Various studio build threads here on BC - use advanced search Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njr911 Posted February 29, 2012 Author Share Posted February 29, 2012 Cheers, the cellar is actually big and split into 4 rooms (old victorian townhouse) back two rooms have been converted for the wifes floristry workshop. front hasn't been touched yet. It has full height celings and a fullsize staircase down so access if no problem. Interesting suggestiions though, going to look into this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gafbass02 Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 We rehearse in my cellar by using a jamhub. It's bloomin' brilliant!!! Check em out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earbrass Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 (edited) Try asking [url="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7371959.stm"]this[/url] chap? Edited February 29, 2012 by Earbrass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
51m0n Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Sound proofing requires mass and isolation. Concrete will provide mass, in abundance, but if its touching the walls it will still transmit vibration. Seperate concrete floor, room within a room, all standard fair for control room /live room type of thing. Checkout the Gearslutz [url="http://www.gearslutz.com/board/studio-building-acoustics/"]forum on studio builds for more info[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njr911 Posted February 29, 2012 Author Share Posted February 29, 2012 gearslutz is not going to get through the work internet filter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Yep as above, the Gearslutz.link. You will also need a good selection of Whips, leathers, chains and a rubber Batman suit. Garry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary mac Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 When I had a damp proofing/cellar conversion business some years back, I was using a system pioneered by a company called Platon, (think that's the right name although it was a while back now), also a company called Newton or Newlath maybe. Anyway, essentially it's a waterproof membrane that is laid across the floor slab and fixed to the walls. It will easily cope with rising/penetrating damp. Once this is in place you can used batons and plasterboard or insulation board or whatever. As long as you use the waterproof fixing points and do not puncture the sheeting. Ideally if you have the space the dry lined walls can be set away from the external walls and wedged/fixed in place. Flooring can be t&g chipboard or ply. If there is running water or the risk of flooding, then you must allow for a pump to be installed within the floor prior to installing the membrane. I'm at risk of waffling here, so I'll stop. Pm me if you want, I'm happy to offer any advise that I can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truckstop Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 I would still go with concrete floor but don't go right up to the edges. Leave about 4-5" around the cellar walls and pack it with high density foam before building a floor over the whole lot. Should stop the vibrations through the floor spilling up the walls too much I think? Truckstop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gust0o Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 [quote name='Earbrass' timestamp='1330535288' post='1559053'] Try asking [url="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7371959.stm"]this[/url] chap? [/quote] FFS, I wanted this joke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njr911 Posted February 29, 2012 Author Share Posted February 29, 2012 [quote name='Gust0o' timestamp='1330538573' post='1559112'] FFS, I wanted this joke [/quote] MOT LOVE the avatar! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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