KiOgon Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 1961? Hofner twin neck: [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220969425850&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en#ht_647wt_934"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220969425850&fromMakeTrack=true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en#ht_647wt_934[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truckstop Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Are you allowed to put a disclaimer in the ad to not sell it if it doesnt make enough money? Truckstop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deaver Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 [quote name='Truckstop' timestamp='1331031838' post='1566464'] Are you allowed to put a disclaimer in the ad to not sell it if it doesnt make enough money? Truckstop [/quote] Yes, as long as you put it in very small writing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Alsatian Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 If he refuses to sell it to the highest bid, he'll end up with a negative feedback from the buyer and will still have to pay the 9% final value fees. Could be expensive for him if it sells for £500 and he wanted nearer £1000. He should really have covered himself with a reserve price, so that he can walk away if the highest bid doesn't meet it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiOgon Posted March 6, 2012 Author Share Posted March 6, 2012 There's some strange wordiness in there, I don't think it's gonna be a straightforward sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Foxen Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 [quote name='Green Alsatian' timestamp='1331032829' post='1566493'] If he refuses to sell it to the highest bid, he'll end up with a negative feedback from the buyer and will still have to pay the 9% final value fees. Could be expensive for him if it sells for £500 and he wanted nearer £1000. He should really have covered himself with a reserve price, so that he can walk away if the highest bid doesn't meet it. [/quote] http://www.e-sue.co.uk/recent_work.htm# [quote]SALES ON EBAY ARE BINDING CONTRACTS ... ... as a seller found out to her cost when e-sue drafted proceedings for Loss of Bargain. [url="http://www.e-sue.co.uk/recent_work.htm#"]Read less[/url] Our client won [url="http://www.e-sue.co.uk/docs/eBay_ad.jpg"]this French dining room table[/url] from an eBay seller for just £51.00, which was actually worth over ten times this amount. The seller refused to part with the table and refunded the £51.00 via PayPal, telling our client to sort his problem out with eBay. Instead e-sue drafted county court proceedings for the loss of bargain suffered, which the eBay seller defended vigorously. The court ruled that the winning bid created a binding contract between seller and buyer, and that the seller breached her contract by refusing to allow collection. [url="http://www.e-sue.co.uk/docs/eBay_Judgment.jpg"]Judgment for over £650.00 [/url]was awarded to our client for the loss of bargain suffered. However the eBay seller refused to pay, so e-sue then prepared to take a second charge over her home, resulting in an immediate bankers draft for the full amount. [/quote] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prosebass Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 (edited) [left][quote][font=Arial][u]I WILL NOT[/u] be selling the guitar to just anybody. Im looking to sell this to an enthusiast/collector or musician. [/font][/quote][/left] [left]????? [/left] [left][quote][font=Arial]*[i][size=1]If i am also not happy with the final price the guitar sells for i have full right to refuse sale of the guitar as will not be giving it away[/size][/i]*[/font][/quote][/left] [left]Maybe somebody should inform the seller that without a reserve he / she will have to sell to whoever bids the most.[/left] [left]What I am seeing more and more on ebay especially with amps and basses is the seller pulling the ad before the end because the bidding is not going their way. Why won't people just use a reserve if they require a minimum amount for an item and let the market decide if it is reasonable or not.[/left] [left]I list 99% of my items with a start price of 99p and no reserve whether the item is worth £10.00 or £500.00.[/left] [left]This creates interest and gets people watching and bidding. Last week I sold a lens that jumped in price from £43.00 to £124.00 in the last 6 seconds of bidding....Some items don't make what I expected but overall my items go for very good prices.[/left] [left]Paul[/left] Edited March 6, 2012 by Prosebass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ras52 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 [quote name='Prosebass' timestamp='1331041731' post='1566704'] [left]I list 99% of my items with a start price of 99p and no reserve whether the item is worth £10.00 or £500.00.[/left] [left]This creates interest and gets people watching and bidding. Last week I sold a lens that jumped in price from £43.00 to £124.00 in the last 6 seconds of bidding....Some items don't make what I expected but overall my items go for very good prices.[/left] [left]Paul[/left] [/quote] This for me too. Listed a load of LPs at 99p and saw some that I thought were gems go unsold, and another fetching up to £30! Just proves I know nowt, I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prosebass Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 [quote name='ras52' timestamp='1331043243' post='1566729'] This for me too. Listed a load of LPs at 99p and saw some that I thought were gems go unsold, and another fetching up to £30! Just proves I know nowt, I suppose. [/quote] Conversely I listed a job lot of 12" dance vinyl (about 120 discs) at 99p and guess what ? they went for 99P Swings and roundabouts as they say.... Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Foxen Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 I just start stuff at what I want for it. I don't really see the point in a reserve, just frustrates people. I don't sell for less that I want, I don't pay for anything if unsold, if its worth loads more to people it will get bid up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Getting back to the instrument for a second, that appears to be a genuine, all-original 1964 Hofner 191(i). I've been monitoring Hofner sales on eBay for maybe six years now. That's the second 191 I've ever seen offered for sale, and the first 191(i) - i.e. the first version of this particular model, there was a later 191(ii). To a collector, this is verging on priceless. As an instrument to play, I wouldn't get too excited about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGreek Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Prosebass' timestamp='1331041731' post='1566704'] [left]????? [/left] [left]Maybe somebody should inform the seller that without a reserve he / she will have to sell to whoever bids the most.[/left] [left]What I am seeing more and more on ebay especially with amps and basses is the seller pulling the ad before the end because the bidding is not going their way.[/left] [left]Paul[/left] [/quote] ..but if you inform them of this won't they just pull the ad??? If anybody is serious about buying this shouldn't they just make a sensible bid and hope that nobody else bids it up?? Edited March 6, 2012 by TheGreek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Foxen Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Doing things correctly with someone who is trying to mess with the system might not work out great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prosebass Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 [quote name='TheGreek' timestamp='1331063887' post='1567161'] ..but if you inform them of this won't they just pull the ad??? If anybody is serious about buying this shouldn't they just make a sensible bid and hope that nobody else bids it up?? [/quote] Even if you pay enough you may have to jump through hoops to convince him of your worthy intentions for the instrument. [quote][font=Arial][u]I WILL NOT[/u] be selling the guitar to just anybody. Im looking to sell this to an enthusiast/collector or musician. [/font][/quote] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_5 Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 To be honest, If it's really THAT collectible and one of your terms of sale is that all potential buyers should provide evidence of 'worthiness' to actually own it, then I'd say he's foolish to list it on the bay. Surely a rare instrument shop / specialist forum would be far more appropriate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted March 7, 2012 Share Posted March 7, 2012 [quote name='Prosebass' timestamp='1331041731' post='1566704'] [left]Why won't people just use a reserve if they require a minimum amount for an item...[/left] [/quote] Because setting a non-public reserve results in a higher fee for the seller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chairleg Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 [quote name='hiram.k.hackenbacker' timestamp='1331076783' post='1567440'] Reported. Cannot abide that sort of behaviour. [/quote] +1. They shouldn't need Ebay to sell this for a good price anyway. Plenty of collectors out there would love this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shizznit Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 [quote name='Chairleg' timestamp='1331186900' post='1568980'] +1. They shouldn't need Ebay to sell this for a good price anyway. Plenty of collectors out there would love this. [/quote] I agree. If this guy wants to sell this at its true value then there are lots of specialist auction agencies and merchants he can approach. A collector in the right circles will snap that up in next to no time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 I wouldn't be too hard on the lad, he seems to genuinely not know what 'commercial' value this may (or may not..!) have. There appears to be an enormous sentimental value, from family 'original owner', and, for my part, I think the guy's sincere in wanting this oddity to be appreciated. I have a couple of Hofners, and there's a certain 'clique', or small group of folks who find these collectable (as, indeed, are other makes...); unfortunately for this bloke, we're not an especially rich bunch..! That's part of the reason for liking Hofners; they're not that expensive (mostly...). I wish him good luck with the sale. I'd be interested somewhat, but SHMBO would never understand..! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiOgon Posted March 8, 2012 Author Share Posted March 8, 2012 Have you seen the additional family/band photo's added? They were certainly a bunch of wide boys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 [quote name='KiOgon' timestamp='1331207442' post='1569335'] Have you seen the additional family/band photo's added? [/quote] Brilliant. Love the 'medallion men' one in a field. Classic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shizznit Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1331209531' post='1569382'] Brilliant. Love the 'medallion men' one in a field. Classic. [/quote] I have just sent that pic to my band members to reconsider our stage appearence and go for that look. Sharp and sexy!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discreet Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 [quote name='shizznit' timestamp='1331209963' post='1569393'] I have just sent that pic to my band members to reconsider our stage appearence and go for that look. [/quote] If you do it, you MUST post some pics! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shizznit Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 I love that 'Tony Montana' look! - "Say hello to my little friend!!" My male vocalist does an amazing impression...could be the way forward for us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Jack Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 [quote name='discreet' timestamp='1331209531' post='1569382'] Brilliant. Love the 'medallion men' one in a field. Classic. [/quote] Bah! Not a patch on the REAL thing. [IMG]http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/m496/h4ppyjack/Just%20Stuff/Music%20and%20Musicians/swedish-dance-bands-012.jpg[/IMG] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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