xilddx Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 (edited) http://uk.line6.com/stagescape-m20d/story Edited March 9, 2012 by silddx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norris Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 (edited) Bloody hell, that looks expensive! Edit: Hang on, it's Line 6... Edited March 9, 2012 by Norris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xilddx Posted March 9, 2012 Author Share Posted March 9, 2012 [quote name='Norris' timestamp='1331302260' post='1571055'] Bloody hell, that looks expensive! [/quote] It probably will be. But a [b]good[/b] PA and mixer is pretty expensive anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icastle Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 It looks suspiciously like a digital mixer with a computer game GUI and some Line 6 modelling circuitry added... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 Any pro chooses to use that and I'll eat my hat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS_freak Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 [quote name='icastle' timestamp='1331302642' post='1571061'] It looks suspiciously like a digital mixer with a computer game GUI and some Line 6 modelling circuitry added... [/quote] Ha ha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thumperbob 2002 Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 Looks brave, but I dont get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xilddx Posted March 9, 2012 Author Share Posted March 9, 2012 (edited) [quote name='EBS_freak' timestamp='1331302785' post='1571064'] Any pro chooses to use that and I'll eat my hat. [/quote] I doubt Rush arena concerts are their target market. Even though Rush's mixing area at Wembley had about ten people with laptops when I saw them a few years ago on the R30 tour. Also, remember when studios started getting computerised 20 years ago? Look at them now. Edited March 9, 2012 by silddx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crez5150 Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 Nice Idea...... but for two subs two mid/high and the desk you're looking at £6k........ you can buy some really nice PA kit for that sort of money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icastle Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 [quote name='silddx' timestamp='1331303870' post='1571090'] Even though Rush's mixing area at Wembley had about ten people with laptops when I saw them a few years ago on the R30 tour. [/quote] They were downloading the lyrics... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vsmith1 Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 I like the look of it, and wonder if this is a bit like GarageBand for Sound engineering? At least you can get behind the "easy set up" and really tweak things. I will wait for the sound engineers to wonder where their expertise is going and when they'll get the next job. Also have you see the new Mackie DL1608 which uses a iPad as the control surface? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crez5150 Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 (edited) I'm awaiting one of these presently....... Never thought I'd buy a bit of Behringer kit in my life..... but I've played with this and it's gonna make it's mark in the industry I can tell ya now . Edited March 9, 2012 by crez5150 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xilddx Posted March 9, 2012 Author Share Posted March 9, 2012 [quote name='icastle' timestamp='1331304485' post='1571111'] They were downloading the lyrics... [/quote] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skankdelvar Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 TBH, they had me at [i]'explode the traditional mixer/outboard gear paradigm'[/i]. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charic Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 [quote name='crez5150' timestamp='1331304367' post='1571106'] Nice Idea...... but for two subs two mid/high and the desk you're looking at £6k........ you can buy some really nice PA kit for that sort of money. [/quote] But has anyone tried these yet? With the full on kit this does some bloody clever stuff. So can we assume that this isn't "some really nice PA kit for that sort of money"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crez5150 Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 I've heard it..... it's good kit don't get me wrong. But I would spend my money elsewhere if going for a pa system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisnameistaken Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 It's good to see an alternative approach to mixing, and hiding some of the complexity is probably a good place to start. I don't really like the look of this solution but hopefully we'll see other companies bringing their own ideas to bear on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low End Bee Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 [quote name='icastle' timestamp='1331304485' post='1571111'] They were downloading the lyrics... [/quote] Or playing World of Warcraft.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtcat Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 [quote name='crez5150' timestamp='1331304839' post='1571121'] I'm awaiting one of these presently....... Never thought I'd buy a bit of Behringer kit in my life..... but I've played with this and it's gonna make it's mark in the industry I can tell ya now . [/quote] +1000 Have spent a few hours with one of these and it's a very very good piece of equipment. There are only two other Behringer products I'd swear by (DEQ2496 & DCX2496) but this is going to change people's perception of them. As someone who has spent years involved with PA kit I often struggle to comprehend how much money some people blow on gear then don't bother learning to use it right. For the £6k that the Line6 kit could cost you could have a monster sound system but at least this one seems to be making it easy for people to use it right which can only be a good thing. However I've personally enjoyed every minute of learning how to get it right the old fashioned way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 [i]"[color=#000000][font=Helvetica,]an integrated live sound solution that uses touchscreen-based visual mixing to explode the traditional mixer/outboard gear paradigm."[/font][/color] "[color=#000000][font=Helvetica,]The clash between right-brain artistry and left-brain analytics often derails the creative flow. StageScape was designed to avoid the left-brain/right-brain duality by removing layers of non-creative tasks between you and your live mix."[/font][/color][/i] Translation: a user friendly interface. They'll get an award for high quality twaddle at this rate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charic Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 [quote name='Kiwi' timestamp='1331326182' post='1571589'] [i]"[color=#000000][font=Helvetica,]an integrated live sound solution that uses touchscreen-based visual mixing to explode the traditional mixer/outboard gear paradigm."[/font][/color] "[color=#000000][font=Helvetica,]The clash between right-brain artistry and left-brain analytics often derails the creative flow. StageScape was designed to avoid the left-brain/right-brain duality by removing layers of non-creative tasks between you and your live mix."[/font][/color][/i] Translation: a user friendly interface. They'll get an award for high quality twaddle at this rate. [/quote] They write like this for the pod stuff too. It's quite amusing really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icastle Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 [quote name='Kiwi' timestamp='1331326182' post='1571589'] [i]"[color=#000000][font=Helvetica,]an integrated live sound solution that uses touchscreen-based visual mixing to explode the traditional mixer/outboard gear paradigm."[/font][/color] "[color=#000000][font=Helvetica,]The clash between right-brain artistry and left-brain analytics often derails the creative flow. StageScape was designed to avoid the left-brain/right-brain duality by removing layers of non-creative tasks between you and your live mix."[/font][/color][/i] [/quote] That sort of twaddle instantly turns me off of a product or service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icastle Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 [quote name='Johnston' timestamp='1331326271' post='1571595'] This is the one that will link to an iPad so you can have you mix away from the desk isn't it ? [/quote] Yep. Although why anyone would actually want to is beyond me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wateroftyne Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 (edited) [quote name='skankdelvar' timestamp='1331306148' post='1571151'] TBH, they had me at [i]'explode the traditional mixer/outboard gear paradigm'[/i]. [/quote] To be fair though, all of Rush's lyrics are a bit flaky. Edited March 10, 2012 by wateroftyne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icastle Posted March 10, 2012 Share Posted March 10, 2012 [quote name='Johnston' timestamp='1331371697' post='1571925'] Well if you have the desk at one side of the hall and want to check the mix at the other side you can adjust without walking back and forward. . Or no soundman you can have the desk on the stage for on the fly adjustments during the gig, out of peoples way and set it up FOH with little effort. [/quote] I know exactly what I'd be thinking whilst trying to tweak a 16 channel mixing desk on a 3" screen with sweaty fingers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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